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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
Quote:Given your atheistic view of morality why would genocide always be wrong? Good luck with that one!

You also never answered my questions about how you even define what good is.

Heather, don't try to explain to Waldork about how morality is likely an evolutionary adaptation that has enabled us to build communities, work together peacefully and honestly and consequently survive given our physical limitations in comparison to other animals. Neither should you patiently try to explain how our concepts of morality are matters of empathy where we feel compassion for the suffering of others and seek to minimize it. Finally, don't attempt to help him comprehend the social contract, how we treat others as we would like to be treated less we be guilty of hypocrisy.

While you're at it, don't trouble yourself to explain to him how "GodWillsIt" does nothing to elucidate our understanding of morality as it's nothing more than a "cause I said so" answer and relies on the bare assertion fallacy that Yahweh is the measure of good purely because the Christians say so.

I've tried to explain to him all of these secular concepts used to understand and explain moral behavior but they're all lost on him. He only understands "Nahy nahy, I've got a god and you don't, so there".
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by DeistPaladin - December 9, 2011 at 7:42 pm

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