(December 9, 2011 at 7:42 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Heather, don't try to explain to Waldork about how morality is likely an evolutionary adaptation that has enabled us to build communities, work together peacefully and honestly and consequently survive given our physical limitations in comparison to other animals.
Yeah because Statler will just point out that that would relegate morality something more along the lines of rules of etiquette and grammar. Not to mention since they apparently are only rules to help us live in communities you couldn’t say that any intentions are wrong (attempted murder), cruelty towards animals, or even one community decimating another one to optimize their survival. Deist knows about all of these shortcomings, but he would rather talk about how a God he doesn’t even think exists is a big meanie-face.
Quote: Neither should you patiently try to explain how our concepts of morality are matters of empathy where we feel compassion for the suffering of others and seek to minimize it.
Yeah because Statler will just point out how that is committing the is/ought fallacy.
Quote: Finally, don't attempt to help him comprehend the social contract, how we treat others as we would like to be treated less we be guilty of hypocrisy.
Yeah because Statler will just ask where this contract came from, how a person opts out of it, and how a person is even supposed to know what it says; which apparently are really tough questions to answer because they have yet to be answered.
Quote: While you're at it, don't trouble yourself to explain to him how "GodWillsIt" does nothing to elucidate our understanding of morality as it's nothing more than a "cause I said so" answer and relies on the bare assertion fallacy that Yahweh is the measure of good purely because the Christians say so.
Yeah because Statler will just point out your complete ignorance when it comes to how ultimate standards, presuppositions, and axioms work.
So rather than listening to Deist, why don’t you try to field my questions yourself and not let him speak for you? I believe you can do it, I have faith in you!