(December 10, 2011 at 4:11 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Fair enough then.Are you still thinking of this whole realm of spirituality pertaining to ghostly figures and magical beings? It isn't that; what spirituality means is the feelings and emotions which drives us - that which innumerable men of faith believe does not exist in atheists. If you don't think that can't exist, then I think you are under a grave misunderstanding, or I may be misunderstanding you gravely.
We disagree, we'll leave it at that. You ask if atheism can have a spirituality, I say no. And if Sam Harris says it can, that makes no difference to me, because he is no more an authority on spirituality than you or I. The only thing we have in common is atheism.
When I was introduced to atheism, if anything, it added a new depth to existence. It is much more beautiful than any religious conviction. The atheists are concerned with the Here and Now - faith is concerned with the There and After, a place which doesn't exist.
Again, by spiritual I don't mean it in the religious sense; more in the secular sense.