RE: What we lack?
December 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2011 at 7:06 pm by JollyForr.)
Before you so swiftly discard them definitions, you must first understand them from a secular viewpoint. You seem to be looking at them with the religious idea of spirituality in mind, whereas the viewpoint I'm talking about does not touch the religious viewpoint - I'm talking about the spirituality that Sam Harris talks about in the video I posted here.
I'll use Sam Harris' explanations as an example. When he mentions spirituality, he means the secular ways in which we can, by discovering what we are capable of, be in a state of deep introspection, and profound states, which are like the religious feelings, yet completely secular, for they do not claim to be in touch with a 'spirit' world. He means by ways of meditation, we can learn new things, similar to those of the religious mystics. Meditation, in Sam Harris' view is not communicating with this spirit world, which doesn't exist; it is a way in which we can discover things about ourselves.
You gravely misunderstand. Again, by spiritual it does not mean a spirit world! It wouldn't be preposterous for an atheist to say what you mentioned. If it was seen as preposterous by you, it would only because you haven't understand where the atheist is coming from, and what the atheist means by 'spiritual.'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8U5J_LV3...re=related
Again, watch this to know where I'm coming from. It doesn't owe the feelings to any spirit world, because they don't exist, but rather to reality.
Let Sam do the talking.
I'll use Sam Harris' explanations as an example. When he mentions spirituality, he means the secular ways in which we can, by discovering what we are capable of, be in a state of deep introspection, and profound states, which are like the religious feelings, yet completely secular, for they do not claim to be in touch with a 'spirit' world. He means by ways of meditation, we can learn new things, similar to those of the religious mystics. Meditation, in Sam Harris' view is not communicating with this spirit world, which doesn't exist; it is a way in which we can discover things about ourselves.
You gravely misunderstand. Again, by spiritual it does not mean a spirit world! It wouldn't be preposterous for an atheist to say what you mentioned. If it was seen as preposterous by you, it would only because you haven't understand where the atheist is coming from, and what the atheist means by 'spiritual.'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8U5J_LV3...re=related
Again, watch this to know where I'm coming from. It doesn't owe the feelings to any spirit world, because they don't exist, but rather to reality.
Let Sam do the talking.
