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It's time
RE: It's time
(May 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm)emjay Wrote: From my POV, the main thing it teaches is the wrong attribution of responsibility, both in the sense of theists not giving themselves enough credit for their own achievements, ie 'god give me strength'... well maybe that strength was in you all along, and you alone are responsible for your achievements...and likewise, 'god please help me'... someone intervenes of their own free will to help and the next thing it's 'thank you god for helping me', what about the person who helped?. Basically misattribution of responsibility either way IMO, and in such a way that true self-esteem is never fostered not just because of this lack of responsibility, but also because of the supposedly inherent sinful nature.

I really don't know about that, any run of the mill religious person knows how to say thank you to someone who helped. It may upset some people that they don't get enough credit for what they do, but this can be seen in a negative way : why do they even need credit ? They should do good unconditionally, whether they get credit or not.

But sure, in real life we really do need approval, it just seems that religious people are capable of providing that, too.
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It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 2, 2023 at 2:12 pm
RE: It's time - by Jackalope - May 2, 2023 at 2:25 pm
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 2, 2023 at 2:25 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 2, 2023 at 2:39 pm
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 2, 2023 at 2:48 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 2, 2023 at 2:52 pm
RE: It's time - by Jackalope - May 2, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: It's time - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 3, 2023 at 7:32 pm
RE: It's time - by purplepurpose - May 2, 2023 at 2:31 pm
RE: It's time - by Nay_Sayer - May 2, 2023 at 7:44 pm
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 2, 2023 at 3:22 pm
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 2, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: It's time - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2023 at 3:58 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 2, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: It's time - by The Valkyrie - May 2, 2023 at 6:12 pm
RE: It's time - by Gwaithmir - May 3, 2023 at 8:37 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 2, 2023 at 6:11 pm
RE: It's time - by Rev. Rye - May 2, 2023 at 7:50 pm
RE: It's time - by Peebothuhlu - May 3, 2023 at 12:00 am
RE: It's time - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 3, 2023 at 5:30 am
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 3, 2023 at 5:52 am
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 3, 2023 at 6:11 am
RE: It's time - by no one - May 3, 2023 at 6:37 am
RE: It's time - by h4ym4n - May 3, 2023 at 6:45 am
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 3, 2023 at 7:09 am
RE: It's time - by h4ym4n - May 3, 2023 at 8:36 am
RE: It's time - by Mister Agenda - May 3, 2023 at 9:30 am
RE: It's time - by brewer - May 3, 2023 at 2:58 pm
RE: It's time - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 3, 2023 at 8:39 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 9:55 am
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 6, 2023 at 10:09 am
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 10:10 am
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 6, 2023 at 10:13 am
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 10:17 am
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 6, 2023 at 10:24 am
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 10:33 am
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 6, 2023 at 10:35 am
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 6, 2023 at 11:21 am
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 12:26 pm
RE: It's time - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 6, 2023 at 12:47 pm
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 6, 2023 at 10:27 am
RE: It's time - by Silver - May 6, 2023 at 10:18 am
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 6, 2023 at 10:43 am
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 11:17 am
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 6, 2023 at 11:26 am
RE: It's time - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 6, 2023 at 12:19 pm
RE: It's time - by Thumpalumpacus - May 6, 2023 at 3:05 pm
RE: It's time - by The Valkyrie - May 6, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 6, 2023 at 4:01 pm
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 6, 2023 at 4:32 pm
RE: It's time - by The Valkyrie - May 6, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 6, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: It's time - by The Valkyrie - May 6, 2023 at 6:50 pm
RE: It's time - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 8, 2023 at 12:01 pm
RE: It's time - by A. Secular Human - May 8, 2023 at 8:25 pm
RE: It's time - by Ravenshire - May 9, 2023 at 8:37 am
RE: It's time - by Kingpin - May 12, 2023 at 12:50 pm
RE: It's time - by Simon Moon - May 12, 2023 at 1:28 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 2:47 pm
RE: It's time - by emjay - May 12, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 3:08 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 3:29 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 3:39 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 3:47 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 4:37 pm
RE: It's time - by emjay - May 12, 2023 at 3:30 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 3:41 pm
RE: It's time - by emjay - May 12, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 4:14 pm
RE: It's time - by emjay - May 12, 2023 at 4:34 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 4:37 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 4:42 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 4:49 pm
RE: It's time - by emjay - May 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 6:05 pm
RE: It's time - by emjay - May 12, 2023 at 6:20 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 6:32 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 2:43 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 3:04 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 3:10 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 3:39 pm
RE: It's time - by zebo-the-fat - May 12, 2023 at 4:41 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 4:44 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 4:48 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 4:50 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 4:53 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 5:00 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 4:52 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 5:02 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 5:06 pm
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 12, 2023 at 5:39 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 5:52 pm
RE: It's time - by arewethereyet - May 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm
RE: It's time - by A. Secular Human - May 17, 2023 at 6:21 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 5:17 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 5:37 pm
RE: It's time - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 5:49 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 5:40 pm
RE: It's time - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 6:10 pm
RE: It's time - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 6:12 pm
RE: It's time - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 7:01 pm
RE: It's time - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 12, 2023 at 7:38 pm

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