As noted in the other thread, you've left some options off the table. For my part, I have no investment in any specific view. I do think order is useful for a social species. What I find most interesting is that morals are experienced as an imperative, something we are called to answer to, yay or nay; there is little else that is phenomenologically experienced in this way, save perhaps the will to survive and the fight-or-flight response.
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