(May 17, 2023 at 4:27 pm)Kingpin Wrote: In this naturalistic worldview, when you state something is good/evil, right/wrong, isn't that just pure subjective opinion that ebbs/flows with societal/cultural acceptance and personal opinion?Lets, hypothetically, assume i say "yes, morality is subjective. Murder, rape, and theft are maybe *bad* in one culture and *good* in another". That would be sad, real sad for humanity, maybe depressing, and for that reason you maybe DISLIKE this answer. But, so what? Do you know what an argument from consequences is? Because thats what you are setting up here.
However sad, brutal, depressing the truth about humanity (or the universe as a whole may be), that is no good reason for believing in a god. You should not accept propositions just because you dislike the consequence of the opposite.
If so i would be a millionaire, because i dont like not to be one.
Subjectiveness of morality:
YOUR christian morality is also subjective. Subjective to the whims of your god. Killing is bad....until your god orders it. But keep the virgins for yourself, its important! Remember?
Last but not least (and it has been said before): Why dont you rape, loot and pillage? Because a god tells you to not do so? If so, by all means keep your unjustified and irrational belief, otherwise you would be a f.ing danger to all the rest of us.
I for my part, being an atheist, am raping, pillaging and looting as much as i want, without having anyone to tell me. And that amount is ZERO. But i am sure you have read all about this stuff, and the fact that you have to open up yet another thread about this tells me that you still didnt absorb all of these things, yet, for whatever reason.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse