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Morality
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RE: Morality
(May 18, 2023 at 9:45 am)Kingpin Wrote: Thanks for all the responses folks.  The point I was trying to make is I see a LOT of atheists making moral judgments against theistic Gods and some go as far as saying that is WHY there cannot be a God.  But how can one justify that judgment as matter of fact if morality as a whole is subjective to self and society?  It cannot be fact if it's relative and subjective.  So making moral judgment about God as factual wrong is to borrow from theistic morality to deny theism.  Seems odd.

As for my morality subjective to God, what's the problem?  So what if it is?  He is the creator of all things, I'm perfectly fine being subjective to Him.  All this tells me is that you want to be your own God.  I believe morality is rooted in God's nature and we are made in the image of God, thus morality is engrained in our being, knowing right from wrong.

Turn it around: if God mandates what is moral, why does morality differ so much depending on time, place, and circumstance? Tribes in Papua-New Guinea clearly don’t have the same moral strictures regarding murder that you and I do. Stealing medicine for a desperately ill child clearly doesn’t carry the same moral burden as kidnapping.

It strikes me that if God is the source of morality and wants people to behave according to his moral strictures, he could easily have imparted the same innate moral sense to everyone who has ever lived. 

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Morality - by Kingpin - May 17, 2023 at 4:27 pm
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 17, 2023 at 4:35 pm
RE: Morality - by Kingpin - May 17, 2023 at 4:42 pm
RE: Morality - by HappySkeptic - May 17, 2023 at 5:03 pm
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 17, 2023 at 5:13 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 17, 2023 at 4:56 pm
RE: Morality - by no one - May 17, 2023 at 5:07 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 17, 2023 at 5:23 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 17, 2023 at 6:52 pm
RE: Morality - by Paleophyte - May 17, 2023 at 10:05 pm
RE: Morality - by Deesse23 - May 18, 2023 at 3:02 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 18, 2023 at 7:34 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 18, 2023 at 7:41 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 18, 2023 at 8:24 am
RE: Morality - by Kingpin - May 18, 2023 at 9:45 am
RE: Morality - by Deesse23 - May 18, 2023 at 11:00 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 18, 2023 at 11:05 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 18, 2023 at 11:13 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 18, 2023 at 11:19 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 18, 2023 at 11:28 am
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2023 at 11:07 pm
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 23, 2023 at 5:48 am
RE: Morality - by Belacqua - May 23, 2023 at 6:32 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 23, 2023 at 6:59 am
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2023 at 8:00 am
RE: Morality - by Deesse23 - May 23, 2023 at 8:48 am
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2023 at 3:33 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 23, 2023 at 4:46 pm
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 25, 2023 at 10:40 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 26, 2023 at 5:15 am
RE: Morality - by Mister Agenda - May 26, 2023 at 8:55 am
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 23, 2023 at 4:59 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 23, 2023 at 8:17 pm
RE: Morality - by Deesse23 - May 24, 2023 at 2:41 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 23, 2023 at 10:11 am
RE: Morality - by Pat Mustard - May 27, 2023 at 8:32 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 23, 2023 at 7:39 am
RE: Morality - by Deesse23 - May 23, 2023 at 8:33 am
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 23, 2023 at 11:08 am
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 23, 2023 at 5:03 pm
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 23, 2023 at 5:38 pm
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 23, 2023 at 5:49 pm
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 23, 2023 at 6:33 pm
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 24, 2023 at 4:36 am
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 24, 2023 at 1:13 pm
RE: Morality - by Deesse23 - May 23, 2023 at 8:29 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 23, 2023 at 5:51 am
RE: Morality - by Paleophyte - May 18, 2023 at 5:58 pm
RE: Morality - by Mister Agenda - May 19, 2023 at 9:21 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 18, 2023 at 10:00 am
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 18, 2023 at 12:17 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 18, 2023 at 12:31 pm
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 18, 2023 at 6:02 pm
RE: Morality - by brewer - May 18, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: Morality - by Astreja - May 18, 2023 at 10:00 pm
RE: Morality - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 18, 2023 at 10:02 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 18, 2023 at 11:04 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 19, 2023 at 4:00 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 19, 2023 at 4:26 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 19, 2023 at 7:46 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 19, 2023 at 8:37 am
RE: Morality - by Kingpin - May 19, 2023 at 8:55 am
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 19, 2023 at 10:46 am
RE: Morality - by Kingpin - May 19, 2023 at 8:58 am
RE: Morality - by A. Secular Human - May 22, 2023 at 4:28 pm
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 22, 2023 at 6:24 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 22, 2023 at 8:26 pm
RE: Morality - by Anomalocaris - May 22, 2023 at 11:07 pm
RE: Morality - by emjay - May 23, 2023 at 4:44 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 19, 2023 at 9:03 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 19, 2023 at 9:34 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 19, 2023 at 10:03 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 19, 2023 at 12:35 pm
RE: Morality - by Pat Mustard - May 19, 2023 at 1:57 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 19, 2023 at 3:17 pm
RE: Morality - by Pat Mustard - May 20, 2023 at 3:19 am
RE: Morality - by HappySkeptic - May 21, 2023 at 1:57 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2023 at 7:29 pm
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2023 at 10:52 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2023 at 4:08 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2023 at 8:00 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2023 at 5:12 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 23, 2023 at 7:26 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 23, 2023 at 8:31 pm
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 23, 2023 at 8:48 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 26, 2023 at 9:54 am
RE: Morality - by Anomalocaris - May 26, 2023 at 10:42 am
RE: Morality - by HappySkeptic - May 26, 2023 at 11:02 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 26, 2023 at 11:42 am
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 27, 2023 at 3:11 pm
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 27, 2023 at 3:31 pm
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 28, 2023 at 11:20 am
RE: Morality - by arewethereyet - May 28, 2023 at 1:37 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 27, 2023 at 3:45 pm
RE: Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - May 27, 2023 at 6:24 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 28, 2023 at 3:09 pm
RE: Morality - by Pat Mustard - May 29, 2023 at 1:50 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 28, 2023 at 11:39 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - May 28, 2023 at 12:46 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2023 at 8:06 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - May 31, 2023 at 6:38 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2023 at 6:48 am

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