(May 18, 2023 at 9:45 am)Kingpin Wrote: The point I was trying to make is I see a LOT of atheists making moral judgments against theistic Gods and some go as far as saying that is WHY there cannot be a God. But how can one justify that judgment as matter of fact if morality as a whole is subjective to self and society? It cannot be fact if it's relative and subjective. So making moral judgment about God as factual wrong is to borrow from theistic morality to deny theism. Seems odd.
That's likely because you're only ever hearing it brought up by an atheist after we've been told that god is the source of all morality/morality is proof of god/if we're moral then we're all secretly believers/that we're incapable of being decent human beings without belief. Round about that turn in the conversation we tend to start bringing up those uncomfortable little truths about how your oh-so-moral god doesn't appear to have a single moral that can't be found outside of turn of the millennium Israel or Rome. Doesn't it bother you at all that the source of your morality couldn't seem to manage a single explicit commandment against rape, slavery, or genocide?
Quote:As for my morality subjective to God, what's the problem? So what if it is? He is the creator of all things, I'm perfectly fine being subjective to Him. All this tells me is that you want to be your own God.
No. I'd be a really terrible god.
Quote:I believe morality is rooted in God's nature and we are made in the image of God, thus morality is engrained in our being, knowing right from wrong.
The problem there being that god doesn't seem to know right from wrong. See how this conversation comes up?
