(June 12, 2023 at 1:29 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I truly want to be in heaven, if there is one, and the alternative is hell, if there is one.
Well the bad news is none of us will live in heaven. We are to actually live on Earth after Judgment with Jesus as our King.. Do you believe in earth? If so you are 1/2 way there.
Quote:The problem is, I don't think they're real. Not the Buddhist or Muslim versions either. The NT assumes hell, but it never lays out evidence or reasoning to support its existence.Kinda don't need any of that when the Authority on it says it is so.
You are trying to apply a scientific standard on a promise that was introduced before science. meaning why would it meet scientific standards of proof before science was invented?
Quote:It didn't have to, it was a given that people in the region believed in the hell that Jesus described, or at least Hades as the Romans believed. I don't want to suffer forever, but I can't think of a good reason to believe anyone will. I can see why someone raised to believe it would; but I don't see why someone who never heard of it would find it plausible.
if you want a reason ask god to give you one. ask him to show you the gates of hell. more than one person alive has had a vision of what is to come. Even if this does not meet the scientific standards you think you need, it will be real enough for you.
