(June 12, 2023 at 3:37 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:I didn't say he created it by his self. I communicated that MusK contributed to the raptor engine design. Like how Jesus didn't invent christianity but as it's founder contributed a great deal to what would become the church, and that in this situation it would be like not taking Elon's word for a raptor engine design (component design) of his own making.(June 12, 2023 at 3:32 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: So the author and inspiration of a given religion is not 'expert' enough to comment on his own religion?
Wouldn't that be like Not taking the word of Elon Musk on a raptor engine design of his own making?
What a silly question. Would a liar be expert enough to make his lies true?
also, what amazingly total ignorance of the meaning of “reality” you betray. Reality is not what “expert’ says. It is what they can show under scrupulous and never ending examination. Also elon didn’t design or make the raptor engine. He caused it to be made. And neither his word, nor the words of his engineers who actually designed and made the engine and who can be specifically identified and named, means anything at all if the principles they espouse for the engine is not otherwise proven and verifiable, or if the engine itself could not be presented for examination and demonstrated to work under testing of scrupulous rigor and actual use.
The following is a video I had in mind where it shows Musk discussing engine design and is triggered by the interviewer to make a design change while explaining some of the other changes and functionality of the rocket itself they have made from earlier versions.
https://interestingengineering.com/video...ngine-work
What's significant is Elon provided no scientific evidence to anyone before deciding to make this change. He literally decides this is what will happen and the next time they interview He confirms the changes made.
At some point the whole "evidence" argument has to boil down to someone in authority to dictate what is the proper interpretation of said evidence is, and has the power and authority to set policy. Elon Musk is one such person at space x. Jesus fills the same role for christianity.
So now that I have answered your question answer mine. What makes your interpretation of who and what is with in the frame work of Christianity more valid that Jesus' own direct assessment?
Why is your version of God as framed out by christianity in your mind more accurate than Jesus'?