(June 12, 2023 at 4:25 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(June 12, 2023 at 4:19 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: The evidence for that is all around you. It seems your dispute is not with the evidence but the interpretation.
For if God is the author and creator of all things.. all things are 'evidence' of God. The issue you have is that you want to attribute all of creation to a different process. So again there is no lack of evidence. the dispute comes with your interpretation of said evidence. This would lead one to conclude that if you have reassigned the interpretation of all of creation to another cause other than our creator then whatever other evidence is provided you will simply assimilate to some other cause.
Which begs the question and why I asked; what evidence are you looking for specifically? because if you don't know, then nothing Can convince you otherwise.
There were men in Jesus' time who literally saw Jesus raise people from the dead make the lame walk the deaf hear people with leprosy be completely healed (they can't do that even today.) the blind see, and yet this for them was still not enough 'proof.' What makes you think you are any different if you do not have some minimum requirement of proof that can be demonstrated??
If God (or Jesus) thought all of that was "evidence" then he's an idiot, no one in their right mind would be convinced by any of that nonsense.
Cant the same be said for those who use creation as evidence of some other process?