(June 12, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:R-Farmer Wrote:The Bible doesn't claim omnipotence for God either, only that he is very powerful. Powerful enough to create the universe (maybe not that big a flex since it's conceivable that we've already created universes by accident in cyclotrons) and flood the world; that doesn't necessarily mean that he could rearrange the galaxies to spell out 'See, I told you I was ' in English on a whim. Heck, creating the universe and us took him six days, he didn't create everything with a snap of his metaphorical fingers.
That just proves that god (of the Bible) is an archaic idea created by primitive people who knew very little about the world and let alone the universe.
I disagree. just look at your default presupposition on who and what God is supposed to be.. This idea of perfection can also be found in super early church writings. Where do you think you got it from? What the Bible says is this idea of man's perfection is wrong. the idea of God having to be our perfect version of God is wrong. Rather because God is the master creator He becomes the standard bearer of what perfection is. So even if he retains a trait that 'we' see as being flawed, it is our judgement that is flawed, and what ever perceived attribute we have identified is in fact apart of God's perfection.
God does not have to yield to our standard of perfection inorder to be God.
Quote: People in the ancient past thought that all species of animals could fit on one boat because they knew only a handful of animal species. Similar with the universe - they didn't know about galaxies, and they thought that world was flat. Today we know that the universe is too big for anyone to create it and manipulate it and that we hold no special place in it.
And if you took say, eggs and baby animals instead of full grown adults? If eggs were taken that would represent all avian reptiles and amphibians which would take up a fraction of the space and eliminate the need to feed them. (that's 3/4s of every class of creature on the planet.) Then if you took baby mammals all you would need is a large source of milk and that would also take up a fraction of the space and reduce the needs for most of the food.
That said the story of the ark is not a logistical tale of how one man saved the world from an angry God, but how God used and helped one man save the world from a level of sin it had never seen before or have seen since.
