(June 13, 2023 at 10:55 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Still fucking that gaypedo chicken huh? Pervert.You lost me..
Quote: You've told me that you believe morality to be relative, and that among the competing relativistic moralities you prefer your gods morality...Actually I did not. I said all morality is relative. God's standard Identified as "righteousness" is not relative. God's righteousness is fixed. Making Morality Man's societal standard or Man's version of righteousness which allows for or incorporates what man has deemed as minor sin.
Quote:in no small measure because it claims to offer you eternal life. Meanwhile, I've told you that I don't agree with moral relativism, and that I prefer objective moral standards to any of the competing relativistic standards.Any 'objective' moral standard that is not God's righteousness is just another form of moral relativism. as the inherently good or bad deeds that underline what makes object moralism 'objective' is still based on what society defines as right and or wrong. The primary difference is the points in objective morality are adopted generationally. Sometimes having around for several generations. Like murder, or rape.. but even then these lines get blurred from time to time.
Quote:This includes yours and my society's - and fwiw there's alot of overlap between those two things, since the us is still mostly christian. If you really wanted to talk about people advocating for kiddie fucking, the elephant in the room would be evangelicals trying to get legal marrying age down to menarche.
This 'christian over lap' is a perfect example of generational/object morality as it is a diluted form of God's righteous standard. Which is eroding over time. What would never been allowed two generations back is now the social norm. Which is where my question to you came in, to determine if your morality was objective or relative. and if objective where that line is.
Quote:There are -obviously- many things that you people do that I can't cosign on?
I get that, This discussion is not about judging or calling anyone out on why they think what they do, but more of an examination on how morality is used to manipulate and control those who define themselves by it. I don't personally care no do I have any interest in what you think is right or wrong, in so far as you do not disclose anything that would be considered a crime that I would then be obligated to report.
Quote:It doesn't matter to me that your god commanded kiddie fucking, and it won't matter to me if my country legalizes it. I'll still think it's trash. It's difficult for me to fathom why you believed this to be such a worthy and probative question that you would beclown yourself by asking it, and asking it in this particularly trashy way.
kinda already answered this one in principle.
Quote:Are these supposed to be the hard moral questions?No.
Quote:For whom?
The Grand Nudger
Quote:...and who's narrating it......?Narrative:
per the Merriam Wester's on-line dictionary. I took the two definitions that apply to my use of the word. that said In the definitions I do acknowledge your use of the word (a narrated story/Something that is narrated as being the primary definition for the word.)
narrative
2 of 2
adjective
1
: having the form of a story or representing a story
a narrative poem
and also as a noun:
b
: a way of presenting or understanding a situation or series of events that reflects and promotes a particular point of view or set of values
The rise of the Tea Party and the weakness of the Obama economy have fueled a Republican narrative about Big Government as a threat to liberty …—Michael Grunwald
The media narrative around Kelly's appointment had two central ideas … : He would calm and professionalize the White House, and he would provide a more measured leadership style than his boss.—Perry Bacon, Jr.
With these two definitions in mind one does not need a audible narrator for the story's relayed here in the book of Mark or the book of Matthew to be considered a narrative. That said these two accounts are attributed to the gospel writer for the book of Matthew and the Gospel writer of the book of Mark.
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