RE: Conscience and the Moral Argument as Evidence for the Goodness of God.
June 14, 2023 at 1:04 am
Hello.
"Arguments" are, in the long run, simply words.
Nw something tangible and testable? That'd be interesting.
However, let's address your post.
"1. If objective moral values exist, then God exists. (because there would be objective and universal moral laws in a godless Universe without a divine Law-Giver.)"
This, does not follow. I could posit, "If objective gravitic values exist, then a deity exists. (Because there would be objective and universal gravitic laws in a diety-less universe without such a divine lawgiver.)
I think you've switched out your meaning in the parenthesis there btw.
'Morals' might simply be an emergent property of reality. Much like biology is an outgrowth of chemistry and neurons are an outgrowth of biology.
"2. But we know from our Conscience that objective moral values do in fact exist, and this is a properly basic belief for virtually everybody, including atheists (e.g. that certain acts are intrinsically and objectively evil, like e.g. murder, rape etc, irrespective of the subjective beliefs of murderers and rapists etc)."
Well... a better way of putting this would be that 'By out consciousness we can see recurring patterns of behaviour that have thence been labelled as 'Moral'. Kind of like how we see different cars and, by observation, classify some of them as 'Fast'.
"3. Therefore, granted the fact of the existence of objective moral values known through our Conscience, we can reasonably conclude that our awareness of this Eternal Moral Law came from the Divine Law-Giver Who made us."
Our biology, with all its quirks, would not seem to indicate any such "Made up" concept.
Cheers to you and yours.
"Arguments" are, in the long run, simply words.
Nw something tangible and testable? That'd be interesting.
However, let's address your post.
"1. If objective moral values exist, then God exists. (because there would be objective and universal moral laws in a godless Universe without a divine Law-Giver.)"
This, does not follow. I could posit, "If objective gravitic values exist, then a deity exists. (Because there would be objective and universal gravitic laws in a diety-less universe without such a divine lawgiver.)
I think you've switched out your meaning in the parenthesis there btw.
'Morals' might simply be an emergent property of reality. Much like biology is an outgrowth of chemistry and neurons are an outgrowth of biology.
"2. But we know from our Conscience that objective moral values do in fact exist, and this is a properly basic belief for virtually everybody, including atheists (e.g. that certain acts are intrinsically and objectively evil, like e.g. murder, rape etc, irrespective of the subjective beliefs of murderers and rapists etc)."
Well... a better way of putting this would be that 'By out consciousness we can see recurring patterns of behaviour that have thence been labelled as 'Moral'. Kind of like how we see different cars and, by observation, classify some of them as 'Fast'.
"3. Therefore, granted the fact of the existence of objective moral values known through our Conscience, we can reasonably conclude that our awareness of this Eternal Moral Law came from the Divine Law-Giver Who made us."
Our biology, with all its quirks, would not seem to indicate any such "Made up" concept.
Cheers to you and yours.
