(June 13, 2023 at 12:40 pm)R-Farmer Wrote:(June 13, 2023 at 9:42 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I know this was directed at h4m4n, but: You believe it doesn't apply, but if Jesus is fictional then it does. I was born, Sherlock Holmes was invented. Not asking you to agree, just want to make sure you understand where h4m4n is coming from. The idea was literally unthinkable to me when I was a believer.
Not to be a grammar nazi but this question it still doesn't apply. as Sherlock Holmes was never a fleshed out/real person. Currently and in the time of Christ human beings can not be created by anyone but God. Even if you were to clone someone you are not inventing a person. As it is not possible to creat or invent someone out of spare or newly forged parts.. If you wanted to ask when did Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote "a study in scarlet ." or when did he first create The character of Sherlock Homes. This will get you the information you seek.
Like wise if you want to question the validity of the existence of Jesus then ask when was Jesus supposed to have been born. If you frame your question assuming the answer then you are setting up a logical fallacy ([i]circulus in demonstrando[/i]). If you are intentionally doing that, you are disqualifying us from any effort at a honest discussion.
You BELIEVE it doesn't apply. You BELIEVE that Jesus was once a fleshed out real person. Sherlock Holmes was born in 1854, 'according to Doyle'. Fictional characters can be created by anyone. That you won't even entertain the idea that Jesus might be fictional seems to more disqualify you than me. I don't have a dog in that race, but you are so committed to yours that you apparently can't even acknowledge the possibility that yours might not be a winner, even for a hypothetical.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
