RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 16, 2023 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2023 at 12:44 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(June 16, 2023 at 9:41 am)R-Farmer Wrote: you are Right, morality or what you identified as 'right' can not exist outside of a society that supports it, as "right" is Not a self supporting self sustaining force. There are no inherent right or wrong traits. As right and wrong can only sustained by the power and authority of whom ever defines right. IE Might= right. I'm saying the right established by different countries/empires only last as long as the people do.
Now Because God has ultimate power and transcends all human authority His right is absolute.
This is why I make the distinction between God's righteousness and man's morality. As morality changes over time but God's righteousness Does not.
But how can you say a moral problem is wrong when the variables change over time? Again unless you can provide an example of at least one empirically universal permanent example of a unchanging moral standard that all society must accept, then it is as I pointed out. In that all forms of Morality (not righteousness) are in fact relative.
In our society racists are bad - which the god of the Bible definitely is - as is being infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully - all traits of your god.
I can say that god of the Bible is evil just like I can say that Ted Bundy, Hitler, and Charles Whitman are evil.
And if someone calls a racist morally wrong and your response is "What is morality?" then you are not exactly winning the argument.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"