(June 19, 2023 at 12:03 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(June 16, 2023 at 11:40 am)R-Farmer Wrote: Not what I said. I said:
I'm not saying all vision question are successful, but I am saying ALL Vision quests That Are successful Do in fact result in information not previously known to the quester. Which is in fact the evidence you claim did not exist.
In that case, I doubt any vision quest is successful. I note you not actually showing any evidence that a vision quest has been successful, that would have been my first move were I you.
Again if you are gate keeping the discussion without providing parameters for said evidence then your gate keeping/confirmation bias will not allow any evidence I can provide to be considered. So what would be the point?