RE: Does the fact that many non-human animals have pituitary disprove Cartesian Dualism?
June 22, 2023 at 7:18 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2023 at 7:21 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(June 21, 2023 at 10:38 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:(June 21, 2023 at 3:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s not derailing at all. In fact, it’s a very pertinent question.
Boru
So, you are a rationalist rather than an empiricist? You think that the more our philosophy looks like the Euclid's Elements, the better? Well, I am telling you, that way of thinking is useful in geometry, but almost everywhere else though, it leads us nowhere.
Some arguments for fish not feeling pain are "It appears as though type-c neurofibres are necessary to feel pain, because people with congenital analgesia have a smaller proportion of the type-c neurofibers. And fish have little or no type-c neurofibers." and "Fishes with a hole in their fin continue swimming as normal.". Completely empirical, not trying to rationalistically define pain.
I can be either an empirical rationalist or a rational empiricist. You choose.
But, given the whole ‘do fish feel pain’ thingy, I’d have to come down on the rationalist side, since there’s no empirical way to know how the fish feels about it.
Boru
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