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Free Will Theodicy
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
(July 10, 2023 at 11:34 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There isn't a single christian in the world who doesn't think that stringing up some jew was a good deal for them.  Food for thought.  I tend to agree, though, the only thing objectionable about most christians, is that one little issue there.  We all have our hangups.

Well Jesus was supposed to get strung up in the first place. He knew what was going to happen, and accepted it.

Sure, sure.....excuses from them, just as we're considering excuses for their god?  We could come up with a ton of excuses for failure.  The trouble, ofc, is that we need to come up with even one.  I can usually dredge up a modicum of sympathy for conflicted christians, the ones with that strange combination of a genuine faith and deep personal knowledge.  Sure, it's a drug deal - and their hoped for reward is blood money - the rank superstition the entire belief system swirls in makes them as uncomfortable as anyone else in the secularized and rational contemporary age..........but they still want it.  They want to live forever.  They want to see their loved ones again.  Who wouldn't..they very often wonder and ask.  

I get wanting something so much that whether or not it's a Good Thing™ is secondary or even irrelevant.  What I question, at that point and overall, is the relevance and validity of any supposed moral excuse.  It doesn't matter why or that good does or allows suffering.  The belief is about pie.  They want the pie.  If it takes baking up a bunch of suffering moral agents and adding a little bit of jewish spice to top it off..so be it.  That's the pie recipe....and they want pie.
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Free Will Theodicy - by FlatAssembler - July 9, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 9, 2023 at 11:53 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by FlatAssembler - July 9, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 9, 2023 at 12:30 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by FlatAssembler - July 10, 2023 at 7:38 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 7:47 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Bucky Ball - July 13, 2023 at 4:07 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 12:26 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by FlatAssembler - July 9, 2023 at 12:29 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Bucky Ball - July 10, 2023 at 10:26 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 9, 2023 at 5:51 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 8:19 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 8:30 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 9:02 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 9:41 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 9:50 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 10:09 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 10:14 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 10:22 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 10:47 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by h4ym4n - July 10, 2023 at 11:58 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 12:00 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by h4ym4n - July 10, 2023 at 12:02 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 12:12 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 12:27 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 9:54 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 11:34 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 11:39 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 11:49 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 12:26 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 12:38 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by h4ym4n - July 10, 2023 at 12:01 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 12:17 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 12:47 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 2:47 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 2:59 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 3:06 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 4:25 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 4:33 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 4:49 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Angrboda - July 10, 2023 at 4:46 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 4:59 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 5:17 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 5:42 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 5:44 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 5:50 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 6:06 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 6:12 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 6:21 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 6:26 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 6:27 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 6:36 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Ahriman - July 10, 2023 at 6:56 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 10, 2023 at 7:17 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 11, 2023 at 5:03 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Bucky Ball - July 13, 2023 at 1:49 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Anomalocaris - July 13, 2023 at 4:12 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Bucky Ball - July 13, 2023 at 11:53 am
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Anomalocaris - July 13, 2023 at 12:50 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Bucky Ball - July 13, 2023 at 2:15 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm
RE: Free Will Theodicy - by Nolin Lane - July 30, 2023 at 4:54 pm

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