RE: Fine Tuning Principle: Devastating Disproof and Scientific Refutation of Atheism.
July 22, 2023 at 8:35 am
(This post was last modified: July 22, 2023 at 8:51 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You might have it backwards Nish. It's not that the universe is tuned for life, but that life as we know it is tuned for the universe as we know it. The usual example is that of a puddle water, certain that the hole was custom-made to fit.
For a deeper dive, consider that someone might have bullshitted you about atheism having a chance god. This is a rhetorical device to avoid things like biology, geology, solar system formation. No one thinks that "chance" describes processes like this accurately. You were set up to fail.
You weren't just set up to fail, you were set up to be an insufferable prick while you failed. Don't you think there might be some terrible reason, for example, that atheists seem to feel a bit down? Maybe they largely come from believing families, and got the same treatment from their parents and peers.... as children..... that you think is appropriate here, with us, as grown strangers? Maybe worse. Or maybe it's that believing society, as a whole, is more ready to trust a foreign muslim directly after 9/11 than the atheist who grew up right next door to them and they've known their whole lives. Largely, again, because of the fucked up shit that the people who set you up to fail keep peddling.
What I see, every time you launch yourself into one of these, is pure projection. I see a nihilist who believes that life doesn't have any meaning. That god merely grants things meaning that the things don't themselves possess. I see a person with terrible political positions that have failed time and time again. I see a person who wants to harm children. I see a person who's externalized their own fears, and shame, and idiocy so well that they fail to realize that they are everything they feel like they're railing against. Good luck with all of that shit.
For a deeper dive, consider that someone might have bullshitted you about atheism having a chance god. This is a rhetorical device to avoid things like biology, geology, solar system formation. No one thinks that "chance" describes processes like this accurately. You were set up to fail.
You weren't just set up to fail, you were set up to be an insufferable prick while you failed. Don't you think there might be some terrible reason, for example, that atheists seem to feel a bit down? Maybe they largely come from believing families, and got the same treatment from their parents and peers.... as children..... that you think is appropriate here, with us, as grown strangers? Maybe worse. Or maybe it's that believing society, as a whole, is more ready to trust a foreign muslim directly after 9/11 than the atheist who grew up right next door to them and they've known their whole lives. Largely, again, because of the fucked up shit that the people who set you up to fail keep peddling.
What I see, every time you launch yourself into one of these, is pure projection. I see a nihilist who believes that life doesn't have any meaning. That god merely grants things meaning that the things don't themselves possess. I see a person with terrible political positions that have failed time and time again. I see a person who wants to harm children. I see a person who's externalized their own fears, and shame, and idiocy so well that they fail to realize that they are everything they feel like they're railing against. Good luck with all of that shit.
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