The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.

[The Grand Nudger]

Anthony Flew became a Deistic Theist after many years of discussions and debates, including with Dr. William Lane Craig, God Bless him for it.

Anthony Flew, seemingly at the very door of Christianity and Salvation also said: "The evidence for the Resurrection is better than for claimed miracles in any other religion. It's outstandingly different in quality and quantity.” Amen. Well said. And yet we do not know if he made the final leap of faith before the end of his life; I hope for his sake that he did, so that he could now be in Heaven, or at least in Purgatory, and destined for Heaven in its own due time.

But all this goes to show, evidence does matter, arguments do matter, and they help people, in due time, who want to know the Truth, come to be saved. I agree with Dr. Craig's approach on the subject generally, which is also very Augustino-Thomistic, and places Logic and Reason in its proper place.

-and if he didn't, then he's in the other place, according to your understanding of a fairy tale.  

The sign off at the end, though, about logic and reason being put in it's proper place, is closer to what and why you actually believe.  Not based upon arguments or debate, no more so than anyone else..or, in fact, any of the atheists here. You're swirling the drain of contemporary cultural framing..where people who believe and people who don't argue over who has the better claim to reason, not who better argued their way into either position - because none of us did. Both sides in that disagreement have come to see the value of reason as determinative, even when it isn't operative. In this, you're as secularized as the next atheist in line, and facing the same fate as flew, in your understanding.

Do you want to be a good..or at least proficient.... advocate and disseminator for your faith? Cut all this horseshit out. You know you didn't argue your way into it. You know you've never argued anyone else into it, and you know you've never met anyone who's been argued into it. Lean into world building. Lean into moral community. Talk about the world as you wish it were, as you think it should be. Every moment you spend arguing with reality as it is is completely wasted and thoroughly counterproductive. Just you taking up doomed positions for fear that without them, your worldview will crumble. If your worldview is so uninteresting that you won't talk about it, and so fragile that it needs a cretins defense...then nvm. Forget everything I said, you have nothing worth sharing, nothing worth calling a religion, and nothing worthy of a god, if there were one. Continue along, as per your usual, the butt of a joke that you're not in on.