RE: Isaiah 53, 700 B.C: Historical Evidence of the Divine Omniscience.
July 23, 2023 at 11:14 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 11:18 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 23, 2023 at 11:02 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: I already gave some reasons why the Servant/Messiah is not Israel; the Servant is sinless and righteous, like the Sacrificial Lamb had to be without blemish, whereas Isaiah clearly says Israel was a sinful nation right from the beginning of his Book. This one point alone refutes that opinion. Second, the passage in Isaiah 49 clearly distinguishes the Servant from Israel, saying that the Servant's purpose is not to gather in only Israel (thus showing the Servant and Israel are distinct also), but also to bring God's Salvation to all the Gentiles, i.e. to the farthest ends of the Earth, as Jesus Christ has done. There were false messiahs in Jesus Christ's time, but none of them knew this hidden fact, that the Messiah must suffer and die for our sins. None of them also gathered any of the Gentiles to God, as Jesus Christ, the True Messiah alone did. It should be noted that the Messiah is sometimes called David to indicate He is a Son of David. In the same way, He can be called Israel to signify that He is a Son of Israel. He is a Son of Israel who alone will gather in all the Gentiles who believe in God also, so that Salvation may reach all.
It remains to show various Rabbis and Jewish Scholars, even post-Christian ones, who have themselves acknowledged Isaiah 53 is about King Messiah. The Messiah must be a Suffering Servant, suffer, Sacrifice and die for the sins of His People before He returns in Glory as Conquering King. We know the 2nd will come to pass because the first came to pass. Here are some testimonies from Rabbis/Jewish Scholars on Isaiah 53:
One of them gets it so astonishingly write he is almost Christian, he said: whoever will not admit the Messiah suffers for our sins must suffer for his own sins.
Readers following this issue can peruse this link for more sources: https://jewsforjesus.org/learn/whos-the-...-isaiah-53
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Complete bullshit. We know nothing of the sort, and you have no education in the Bible or the OT.
Isaiah talks all through that the servant is suffering is BECAUSE if the servant's sin.
The Jews had monuments to all kinds of gods set up in their cities, and Isaiah told then THAT was why they were sent into exile.
There is NOTHING ANYWHERE about the suffering servant being sinless. You made that up.
It's the reason they were sent into exile, fool. You are also an ignoramus concerning the OT.
You really should stop trying to fake it. Jews for Jesus ..... LOLOLOL Can you READ ?
Isaiah 41:8-9
But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.”
Isaiah 44:1
But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen!
Isaiah 44:21
Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me.
Isaiah 45:4
For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me.
Isaiah 48:20
Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!”
Isaiah 49:3
And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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