RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 10:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2023 at 10:03 pm by tackattack.
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(July 28, 2023 at 1:38 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(July 28, 2023 at 6:06 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
I delivered 2 meals last week to people that can't get out, it's a regular outreach for most churches I'm aware of. We also regularly donate to the homeless and other charities. I typically do soup kitchens on Holidays, but I'm going to miss Christmas this year because I'm moving. The salvation army runs most of the soup kitchens around here. But you can volunteer, even as an atheist. I also did some bad things last week, but YOU seem to making it personal and it's not.
Back to the conversation... So good people to good things and bad things, Bad people to bad things and good things. OK so people do good and bad things. I only use their claimed religious expression to classify them as "Christian" people. Even the most devout christian people do bad things and sin, that's kind of a core in Christianity. It doesn't make them not Christian. I'm not prepared acknowledge that I know the thoughts of other people, so I can't claim why they did what they did. It's just a simple statement, "People that claim to be Christian, have made positive impacts in society". Even FM quoting Bertrand shows that there have been "some" contributions. Then the conversation attempted to get shifted to does the good outweigh the bad for a net positive good, but again... that wasn't the assignment.
I've said it elsewhere, All humans have a personal morality. Groups of humans for a societal morality and these are both innately subjective. Christians.. or religious people have an addition objective morality from their diety/religious doctrine. It informs their very core beliefs and thus impacts their actions. I attribute my job, my location and my blessings to God. How can you prove I go to the soup kitchen because I'm just a good person and not a Christian? I don't think you can.
Even if we take all the personal morality out of it and look at organization decrees. I still think "The Catholic Church" is the largest non-governmental provider of education and medical services in the world. Historically farms, food pantries, and hospitals were built specifically right alongside missionaries and churches. The literacy and education of the middle ages was predominantly done by clergy was it not?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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