(August 10, 2023 at 5:45 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(August 10, 2023 at 5:30 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: We wouldn't take it as persuasive, but I don't think many of us would argue that it's not their experience. We're not going to try to force someone to pretend there's no God because we're so sure there isn't. Not trying to force a different reality than the one they perceive on someone is just following the don't be a dick commandment. That's without getting into nuances of intersex, hormones, and possibly actual brain structure.
I don't have to personally believe a person's self description is precisely correct in order to honor it. You might notice most of the atheists here support freedom of religion, for instance.
Yes, of course, I'm completely fine with people's self description. If they want to declare they were mis-assigned at birth, and do reassignment surgery, or whatever makes them happier and more comfortable with themselves, that's none of my business.
The decision to see all this as a good thing is ideological, not scientific. It is in keeping with modern liberal values of individualism, self-determination, all those good things.
So it's an issue where the ideology is determinative, not the science.
Pointless question: How do you KNOW it’s not scientific?
Boru
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