RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 9:46 pm
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2023 at 9:47 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(August 20, 2023 at 9:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not a series of non seqs...or any fallacy, at all. That's why it's deemed successful. It might be wrong for any number of reasons, but logical validity isn't one of them.
My personal favorite objection is to start with an antithetical initial premise. Just as, if you accept that a god possibly exists in some world, modal logic will tell you that a god necessarily exists in all worlds..if you accept the premise that a god possibly does not exist in some world, modal logic will tell you that gods are necessarily nonexistent in all worlds. Technically, the antithetical premise is implicit in the possible world god premise (as all the worlds without gods are worlds where it's not only possible, but actual, that a god does not exist).
-and that, is why it's famously described as successful, but unconvincing. Sometimes it helps to think of logic like a word game. Just as a tv mentalist can arrange for an initial set of variables that inevitably leads to just one conclusion after any number of seemingly complicated steps in their at-home audience .... a committed logician can exclude all but the desirable answer by an identical process. It's not that this is invalid, a fallacy, against the rules.....it's just a limitation of our logical system. It's a game, so it can be gamed.
It is nothing but a series of non-sequiturs. It's not successful. I do not accept anything about it. It's all entirely complete utter rubbish.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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