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Is the suffering worth it
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
(August 21, 2023 at 6:22 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 21, 2023 at 6:19 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Know?  What we know is very, very limited.

However, it seems highly likely that death is the permanent cessation of consciousness, which would entail the loss of all goods and all potential for goods (like pleasure).  The only way death become preferable to me, then, is if I have lost all realistic hope of future goods and the current suffering outweighs the current goods.

As for pride and shame, I have little of either.  Are they equal to me?  I can't tell.

My suffering is greater than my pleasure and I would still rather be alive. Literally anything is better than not being conscious at all.

This never made sense to me with you hard core believers in an afterlife that’s supposed to be paradise.

My suffering is greater than my pleasure and I would still rather be alive.




It’s like YOU don’t believe this afterlife bullshit.


Can you explain why you would rather suffer then experiencing bliss?

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Messages In This Thread
Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 20, 2023 at 11:37 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2023 at 11:39 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 12:24 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 20, 2023 at 11:39 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2023 at 12:32 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 12:45 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 21, 2023 at 5:47 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 1:08 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 6:16 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 6:20 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 6:27 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 6:30 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 7:57 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2023 at 1:50 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 2:11 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 3:02 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2023 at 3:05 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 3:11 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by h4ym4n - August 21, 2023 at 4:46 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2023 at 3:13 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 3:19 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2023 at 3:20 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 3:20 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 5:51 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2023 at 6:00 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 6:06 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 6:06 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 6:18 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 6:19 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 6:22 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by h4ym4n - August 21, 2023 at 6:55 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 7:07 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by h4ym4n - August 21, 2023 at 7:24 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ravenshire - August 21, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by arewethereyet - August 21, 2023 at 6:14 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 11:48 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:11 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 6:26 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 6:34 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 6:35 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 6:38 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 6:47 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 7:10 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:11 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 7:20 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:26 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:15 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 7:35 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:44 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 7:51 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:52 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 7:54 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by h4ym4n - August 21, 2023 at 8:13 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by h4ym4n - August 21, 2023 at 8:12 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by no one - August 21, 2023 at 7:46 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:51 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:57 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:59 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by no one - August 21, 2023 at 8:30 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 8:32 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by no one - August 21, 2023 at 8:33 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 8:49 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 9:29 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 9:30 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 9:36 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 9:42 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 9:47 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 9:48 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 10:04 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 10:07 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 10:22 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 10:28 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Thumpalumpacus - August 21, 2023 at 10:57 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 11:04 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 11:23 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Thumpalumpacus - August 21, 2023 at 1:27 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 11:26 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 11:31 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 11:35 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 11:44 am
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 12:16 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 12:39 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 12:01 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Aegon - August 21, 2023 at 12:34 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Aegon - August 21, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Ahriman - August 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Aegon - August 21, 2023 at 1:08 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 12:50 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 12:57 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 1:01 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 1:08 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 1:21 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 1:23 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Angrboda - August 21, 2023 at 1:27 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 1:32 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by Thumpalumpacus - August 21, 2023 at 1:43 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by HappySkeptic - August 21, 2023 at 1:55 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by The Valkyrie - August 21, 2023 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is the suffering worth it - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:15 pm

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