RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 11:23 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2023 at 11:24 am by Angrboda.)
(August 21, 2023 at 11:04 am)FrustratedFool Wrote:(August 21, 2023 at 10:57 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: This is an unsupported claim.
True, I haven't supported that claim here. I don't think freewill can exist under a materialist/physicalist worldview. Do you agree with that, but just reject materialism, or do you think it can exist under materialism?
It matters what you mean by free will. Compatibilist free will may be possible while libertarian free will may not. The question is more whether we have meaningful free will or not, and I think that provides the germ of an argument that we do. The compatibilists argue that the libertarian is mistaken in what makes free will meaningful. Likewise, the libertarian holds that compatibilist free will is not meaningful. The question is what determines which is meaningful to whom. And I don't think that depends upon whether we live in a deterministic universe or not.
A lot comes down to the simple word 'can'. Is it possible that I could choose X instead of Y. Counterfactually, yes. Psychologically, maybe. Ultimately, probably not.
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