RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 21, 2023 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2023 at 2:06 pm by Ravenshire.)
(August 20, 2023 at 11:56 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi everyone(my bold)
I’ve been busy saving the world from unnecessary apostrophe’s.
If God doesn’t exist, and the world just happened as an accident, or always was an accident, why does anyone care about what I say. You all dismiss it as nonsense.
But to say the burden of proof is on me is cowardly.
You all admit you don’t know or it’s not true. Or are you keeping it a secret. OK, tell me I’m wrong. But to deny the existence of God and have no answer yourself is not a convincing position.
I’m not sure why this forum exists. I can’t see any evidence of contributors trying to work out how the universe began. That would seem worthwhile. If you are not sure, why be on the forum at all, unless to find out. Abusing me for my modest comments does not seem very constructive.
But ignore me and prove to each other how the universe began, whether it was made by God or it’s just and amazing random occurrence.
God loves you
Barry
No. To shift the burden is cowardly. You keep insisting that we claim there is no gawd, despite having it explained to you that, for the majority of atheists, this is simply not true. You, however, not only claim there is one and that it created the universe and all that lies within it, but you claim to know with certainty. This puts the burden squarely on you, not those to whom you wish to shift it to.
You also claim that we keep expounding that "we don't know" how the universe came to be. That is not really the case. We know that it did not spring from nothing, as you so fervently claim we believe, but that it expanded from an infinitely hot, infinitely dense initial state. We do not yet understand, and we may never understand, the exact mechanism which started that expansion, but we do have theories that, if you would bother to google them, you could very easily find for yourself. We also understand quite well how the earth was formed, and it has been spelled out to you. Constantly claiming that we claim not to know is just trolling on your part.
Your time here has done little but expose your ignorance of what atheism is and your complete lack of, in fact, disdain for, scientific knowledge. I would recommend that if you wish to engage in thoughtful, intelligent conversations, you first correct your ignorance of the topics. At a minimum, listen to what others are actually saying instead of just waiting your turn to run your mouth speak. Your cute little "gotcha" comments aren't gonna work here, no matter how much you think they will. We've heard them all before.
Also, you claim to respect everyone here, yet treat them with a complete lack of respect by calling them by your cute little nicknames. My moniker here is not Raven, but Ravenshire, regardless of your laziness. Raven is a different member, though they have not been active in a very long time. And, while I've never had anything against them, I don't necessarily wish to be mistake for, or conflated with them. So, maybe you can demonstrate that respect you claim to have for us? Because it's arrogant presumption on your part to assume a diminutive or a nickname is acceptable and you've been called on it before. I can only conclude that continuing to do so is yet another effort at trolling, even if a weak effort, which is bad form.
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