RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 28, 2023 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2023 at 2:15 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(August 28, 2023 at 11:00 am)Moebius Wrote:(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi,Hello there!
I’ve just joined this forum.
I see a lot of discussion about religion and Jesus and being saved. I think that in a forum for atheists the most important question is “Does God exist?”. Jesus Christ is irrelevant if he isn’t the Son of God. And all other religious faiths are meaningless if our world occurred by accident with no creator God.
So how did the world begin?
My answer is that science proves nothing can be created from nothing in our material world, so the only explanation is that something external created the world. And that is what we call God. The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to God, despite knowing in their hearts God exists.
Cheers Barry
I've never believed in God. I didn't even know of the God you speak of before I was 5-6. In fact when I was first introduced to the idea of the christian God, I found it completely ludicrous. I don't mean to offend -- that's just the way I thought and felt. So I disagree that humankind as a whole knows "in the hearts" that God exists. It's of course possible that "something cannot come from nothing" but you're not thinking about the possibility that the universe may always have been there, in one form or another. Therefore there are at least two possible explanations for the existance of the cosmos.
Welcome.
The "in their hearts that god exists" is a couple of fallacies.
1. The ad populum fallacy,
2. and it implies that what the majority of humans (who are totally ignorant of the subject), think that what they see as "intuitive", is true. We know that fundamental reality, as we now understand it, (quantum reality), ... is not intuitive. Roger Penrose, (Haking's friend) agrees with you that it's possible the universe may have always been there ... "see "Cycles of Time".
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist