(August 30, 2023 at 9:32 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Real world religion clearly leads to all manner of harms or social issues: from crusades to conversion therapy, from jihadis to FGM, from creationism to sexual prudery.
I think it abundantly clear that not having these incorrect and immoral, but very popular and insidious, belief systems in the world would make the world a better place.
At no point in this thread has much else been said by me, yet that alone was enough for a few posters to take umbrage with and challenge my viewpoint.
What exactly have I said that you think is wrong?
If you and others have kicked up a fuss for a banal no-trousers viewpoint, that's hardly my fault, is it? I was simply following the line of the OP and saying how my own WV affects my own political opinions. If others have constructed a fiend of their own projections, I am not to blame.
Methodology for bringing about this Lennonesque religious utopia has never been discussed. Ask away, if you wish. But we hadn't even got to such details for people said I was wrong. So before we go further, what exactly have I said so far that you think is monstrous?
What you've said is that having certain thoughts, without corresponding actions, is in itself bad for society. And it's not an objective fact that religion necessarily leads to those harms so you're basing your objection to religion on your mere opinion. They're basing their objection to the harms of LBGTQ people is also based upon their opinion. Your thread itself is about whether your worldview informs your politics, and your answer was yes, in this specific way. There's a much more direct link from politically advocating for an end to religion and laws being enacted to make it a reality, so if you're advocating for it politically, it isn't an idle thought. It's one definition of politics and government that it is about the distribution of resources. Arguing to vote for and elect politicians who will enact policies which result in the marginalizing of people with religious beliefs is not mere idle speculation, it's taking steps toward enacting your prejudices into law, so this bullshit that you haven't advocated working towards policies such as laws, budgets, or regulations is false. You've made it very clear that you act politically on this belief, and there's a much more direct line between your politics and such things than there is between believing religious things and any of the ills you want to blame religion for.