(August 30, 2023 at 10:42 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I agree that it's generally recognized that parents make important decisions for their child. That doesn't extend to causing unjustified suffering through permanent body altering medically unnecessary surgery.
I am equally against religious parents tattooing their infants, for example.
My case that Islamic/Qur'anic teaching makes it more likely that Muslims will behave in accordance with that teaching I'd say was self-evident, though it could be backed up by the amazingly close correspondence between Islamic teachings and behaviour by Muslims and Islamic societies and asking Muslims whether they do things because Allah tells them. In my personal chats with Muslims all did things explicitly because of Islamic teachings.
If you don't accept that there's a self-evident connection between religious dogmas and religious behaviour, even in the face of history, current politics, and common sense; or if you feel the need to stretch your defense of Islamic teachings on GM to asking me to provide survey evidence that most Muslims say that their behaviour is affected by Islamic teaching, then I simply believe you are being quite unreasonable.
That's moving the goalposts. I didn't EVER argue that the behavior of Muslims wasn't influenced by Islamic teachings. So cut the shit or find someone else to talk to.