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Cosmological Fine Tuning
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RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning
Pete, it doesn't matter what you believe. Cosmological fine tuning is anthropic bias. It doesn't matter if one approaches this from the angle of science or religious belief. This means that we have to exercise caution in any conclusions we draw from the notion of "fine tuning". Asking how the cosmological constants ended up where they are is pretty solid. Asking why they're so perfect for us is an exercise in anthropic bias (a less than productive habit of our species). One question might lead to theories with explanatory power, the other has not and probably never will. "Fine tuning" is a beautiful way to describe our cosmos in relation to ourselves. Fine tuning has plenty to say about us, but not much to say about the cosmos. It would be more accurate to say that we are fine tuned for the cosmos, bias causes us to reverse the order. That's why we've decided that it's important to realize things like this when we go out into the universe asking questions. That's why it's so easy for us to link you articles and clips from well respected scientists demonstrating (with evidence that can be verified) why fine tuning is garbage. They aren't arguing against the cosmological constants, or how fortunate we are that they ended up where they did. They're arguing against this sort of thinking and the terribly flawed conclusions one might draw from the whole enterprise.
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Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Pete - December 15, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by The Grand Nudger - December 15, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by frankiej - December 15, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by 5thHorseman - December 15, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 15, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Pete - December 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Multiverse Cosmological Models - by Pete - December 16, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: Multiverse Cosmological Models - by houseofcantor - December 17, 2011 at 12:30 am
RE: Multiverse Cosmological Models - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 17, 2011 at 12:35 am
RE: Multiverse Cosmological Models - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: Multiverse Cosmological Models - by Pete - December 17, 2011 at 9:45 am
RE: Multiverse Cosmological Models - by Pete - December 18, 2011 at 5:36 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by popeyespappy - December 15, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by reverendjeremiah - December 15, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 15, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by LastPoet - December 15, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 15, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 15, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 15, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 15, 2011 at 8:59 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 16, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Welsh cake - December 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Mister Agenda - December 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 16, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 16, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 16, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Pete - December 16, 2011 at 8:00 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 16, 2011 at 8:17 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 9:45 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by little_monkey - December 21, 2011 at 10:43 am
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by DeistPaladin - December 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 21, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Jackalope - December 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 23, 2011 at 2:38 am
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Pete - December 24, 2011 at 7:09 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 24, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Cyberman - December 24, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 24, 2011 at 8:22 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 11:04 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by houseofcantor - December 25, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Cyberman - December 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 28, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by DeistPaladin - December 28, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 28, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Cyberman - December 28, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by Anomalocaris - December 28, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by DeistPaladin - December 28, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Cosmological Fine Tuning - by reverendjeremiah - December 28, 2011 at 2:08 pm

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