(September 15, 2023 at 12:51 pm)Data Wrote:The Bible says God spoke to Moses face to face, and clarifies this by adding it was in the manner that a man speaks to his friend.(September 15, 2023 at 10:21 am)LinuxGal Wrote: On the contrary, it is written (Exodus 33:11): And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend...
I contend that no one has literally seen God's face. Period. You can't take the Bible at face value by cherry picking verses hyperliterally.
You contend that this verse means exactly the opposite of what it says.
I contend that the god described in the Bible cannot exist by the law of non-contradiction.
Here it says he spoke to Moses face-to-face, and John 1:18 says, "No man hath seen God at any time".
You come down on the side of the author of John, and that's fine! But the conjunction of the man Moses seeing God's face, and no man seeing God's face cannot be true by the law of non-contradiction, which can be derived from the law of identity by a DeMorgan transformation and is literally the most fundamental principle of logic (to attempt to negate the law of non-contradiction you would need to invoke it!).