RE: Why are you (still) a Christian?
September 17, 2023 at 12:41 pm
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2023 at 12:49 pm by Bucky Ball.)
Substitutionary Atonement really is total shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitutionary_atonement
It's not anything that a (supposed) Jesus ever said he was doing.
It's not a Biblical concept. The Jews had their own sacrificial system, and Jesus was a Jew, and said he came to change nothing "until all things are accomplished".
The gospels (there were about 200 gospels) and Irenaeus said they whittled them down to 4, because there are 4 winds and 4 pillars on which the Earth stands. LLOLOLOL
As really professional students of history find, (as Bert Ehrman), it's all a pile of crap, with no reason to buy it.
Then we have the fake gullibles, with no education such as Data, who think they can just read the Babble and understand the conplex nature of ancient cultures. LMAO
The content of the gospels contain the thematic concerns and thought of the of the rabbis at the end of the First Century, not the early First Century. They were trying to say where Judaism should go then as the temple was destroyed.
There probably was no Jesus. He most likely was an amalgam of various (and there were many) miracle workers and messiah figures during the First Century.
Studying "the Bible" reveals nothing about historical *truth*. All it does is say what believers believed. Its just the "Good News", not all the news.
The gospels are myth.
No one here can refute Carrier's points, point by point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQmMFQzrEsc&t=2120s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitutionary_atonement
It's not anything that a (supposed) Jesus ever said he was doing.
It's not a Biblical concept. The Jews had their own sacrificial system, and Jesus was a Jew, and said he came to change nothing "until all things are accomplished".
The gospels (there were about 200 gospels) and Irenaeus said they whittled them down to 4, because there are 4 winds and 4 pillars on which the Earth stands. LLOLOLOL
As really professional students of history find, (as Bert Ehrman), it's all a pile of crap, with no reason to buy it.
Then we have the fake gullibles, with no education such as Data, who think they can just read the Babble and understand the conplex nature of ancient cultures. LMAO
The content of the gospels contain the thematic concerns and thought of the of the rabbis at the end of the First Century, not the early First Century. They were trying to say where Judaism should go then as the temple was destroyed.
There probably was no Jesus. He most likely was an amalgam of various (and there were many) miracle workers and messiah figures during the First Century.
Studying "the Bible" reveals nothing about historical *truth*. All it does is say what believers believed. Its just the "Good News", not all the news.
The gospels are myth.
No one here can refute Carrier's points, point by point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQmMFQzrEsc&t=2120s
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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