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Perspective and Belief
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RE: Perspective and Belief
(December 19, 2011 at 12:36 am)Perhaps Wrote: I think I would answer in relation to science that belief determines perspective. I say this because the way in which a scientific experiment is conducted would determine what is observed, thus affecting perception. I don't think that science conducts itself in a manner which follows our observations - that would simply lead to fixed conclusions based on what we want as a result. But perhaps I'm wrong here. Maybe science does create fixed results, simply confirming what we perceive to exist. Either way is interesting to think about.

Science isn't abut beliefs. Any given researcher may start out with nothing but a hunch (not usually the case) but that hunch won't have any effect on science whatsoever unless he can show his work, and unless what he believes is actually there in the results. Science conducts itself in a manner wholly based in our observations. No observations, no confirmation of those observations, no replication of experiments based upon or producing those observations, no peer review of everything already mentioned...no science.

We do often end up finding what we're looking for. Any number of reasons can lead to this, many are very well understood, others may be floating around but until such a time as they are elaborated upon there isn't much we can do about it. Thing about science and the scientific method is that it is designed to avoid this, and many careers are made without producing anything at all, only criticizing the things that others believed they had found when in actuality they had not.

You've confused yourself on a couple of counts at the end here. Conducting science based upon observation often does not lead to the result which we hope for, and science does not create fixed results that merely confirm what we perceive to exist. You've presented a false dichotomy. The aether has been missing for some time now, as a single example that elaborates on both of these points..lol. Many experiments were conducted to prove that the aether existed. They didn't give the results hoped for even though we were looking to confirm what we already perceived to exist. As a side note, there were experiments that seemed to imply that it did exist(some performed by researchers in an attempt to discredit the notion). Imagine their surprise. Ultimately the aether fell by the wayside due to experimentation, observation, and peer review.

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Perspective and Belief - by Perhaps - December 18, 2011 at 3:31 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Godschild - December 18, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Erinome - December 18, 2011 at 4:47 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by fr0d0 - December 18, 2011 at 7:10 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by fr0d0 - December 18, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Ace Otana - December 18, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Perhaps - December 19, 2011 at 12:36 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by helmespc - December 19, 2011 at 12:40 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Perhaps - December 19, 2011 at 12:44 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by helmespc - December 19, 2011 at 12:47 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Perhaps - December 19, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Godschild - December 19, 2011 at 2:00 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2011 at 1:49 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Perhaps - December 19, 2011 at 2:14 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by genkaus - December 19, 2011 at 4:31 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Hoptoad - December 19, 2011 at 4:22 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2011 at 5:41 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by Hoptoad - December 20, 2011 at 4:33 am
RE: Perspective and Belief - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2011 at 11:06 am

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