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The Current Evolution of Ancient Religious Institutions
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RE: The Current Evolution of Ancient Religious Institutions
(November 14, 2023 at 3:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(November 12, 2023 at 9:51 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
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Wow, history for atheists. Finally, since we all know that atheists never read history books or go to schools that teach history classes.

I'm not sure how you got that from the very simple title of my site. It's called "History for Atheists" because its aim is to correct errors about history made by some atheists. It's not saying anything about all atheists and it's definitely not saying that no atheists read "read history books or go to schools that teach history classes". I write the articles on the site and I definitely read history books and draw on the history degree I've done to do so. And I'm ... an atheist. There's an **** and a **** at the top of my site for you to read about who I am and what the site is about.
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Quote:So the blog post starts with a tweet by Neal Degrasse Tyson because atheists get their history from tweets by Dr. Tyson.

No, it begins with Tyson bungling the history here to show how common the misconception about the alleged Medieval flat earth idea is. Though Tyson is pretty influential and I've regularly seen him cited as an authority on history by some atheists, despite him not being a historian and often getting history completely wrong.

Quote:And then it explains how Tyson got his knowledge from a Buggs Bunny cartoon. While this was just some casual conversation Dr. Tyson had where he mentioned that people believed that the Earth was flat 500 years ago

Yes, thus showing how common the mistaken idea the article is about actually is.


Quote:- and thus this post debunked Neal Degrasse Tyson and atheism.

Pardon? I debunk what Tyson says. Not "atheism". How would debunking this common misconception about history "debunk atheism"? Why would I debunk atheism if I'm ... an atheist?  Huh

Quote:But you know what, most people did believe that the Earth was flat 500 years ago because most people were uneducated,

Then it seems you didn't read much beyond the beginning of the article. I have
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 on whether the medieval conception of a spherical earth was just something known to the learned or whether it was widely understood. And I show, with multiple lines of evidence, that it was actually very well-known. It's usually a good idea to actually read things before trying to criticise and contradict them.


Quote:and they were uneducated because the Church kept them uneducated, so the Church played a big role in making people believe that the Earth is flat.

Pardon? The Church did not "keep them uneducated". On the contrary, the Church was one of the only institutions that provided education for the lower classes at all and one of the few that allowed smart people from that strata to rise to high rank and authority regardless of birth. So that's simply nonsense. Most people were not educated then for the same reason most people were not educated in any period of history before the Industrial Revolution - they didn't need to be and were busy getting on with their lives and work. Same as in Roman times or any other period. So this is nonsense, sorry.
Tim O'Neill

History for Atheists - New Atheists Getting History Wrong
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RE: The Current Evolution of Ancient Religious Institutions - by TimOneill - November 19, 2023 at 3:19 am

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