(November 19, 2023 at 3:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's concerning. You're here to tell us about history but you cant think of a single time that the church shit on discovery?
I can think of some common historical misconceptions that you may be referring to, certainly. But actual examples of the Church "shitting on discovery"? None are springing to mind.
Quote:I think we just have a disagreement about what agrarian managers and laborers need or needed. They always needed to know better, even if they didn't know better at a given time.
Knowing more was always helpful. But back then, that didn't require literacy.
Quote:Correct, the church was a major land owner. As such they could exert alot of influence, and the main project for the church through the pre and post modern period was to navigate a serious of authoritarian landmines they themselves had created?
What are you talking about? And what does it have to you with your claim that instead of being at the forefront of the Medieval Agrarian Revolution, they had to be "dragged along screaming and kicking"?
Quote:I think they did so admirably, in that they didn't end up ground to dust like every religion before them. I'm not as impressed with their methods at achieving that..but that's because I'm some silly atheist, I'm sure.
See above. I have no idea what you're referring to or what it has to do with pre-modern literacy levels or medieval agrarian innovation, so I can't assess how "silly" it may be.
Quote:Nothing untoward to discusss..or...at least, nothing you can think of offhand, apparently.
You're the one who obliquely mentioned these 'untoward" things but won't elaborate. Maybe you could actually elaborate.
