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Who you voting for?
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RE: Who you voting for?
(December 21, 2011 at 10:02 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(December 21, 2011 at 9:43 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Wow..your government model sucks donkey dick...its nothing but the upper rich elite running the system. Clearly your government would become corrupt the very minute of its conception. Sounds like every kind of dictatorship typically known throughout the middle east.

I would necessarily be an enemy of this fictional government of yours, mind you, as this governemtn would obviously be holding down the common persons freedom of speech and assembly and religion, etc...

P.S. - America is not "mob rule", and if you think it is, then you do not know shit about American govt.
And your government isn't already ruled by the "rich" elite?
Nearly every damn government that walked this earth has been elitist and rich.
Even in your anarchist dream of a world, the rich will still subjugate poor people under their rule, and probably form another government.

Besides, you won't be living under my government, since you are not even my kin to live under the flag of that country.
Besides, every type of democracy is the kind of selfish mob rule that everyone desires.
Western democracy gives nothing to people.What we need is a strict and strong set of laws, and a powerful and centralized government to enact these laws, unafraid of losing their positions, and solely dedicated to the wellbeing of the people. Not to getting the votes of the people.
Like we have this system based on western democracy, that has just appointed some asshole Turk hating historical revisionist to the head of the language and history institution. If I'd see that guy on the streets, I'd break his legs, but I have to be content with the fact that he has been put on there by people who managed to get the votes of the uneducated poor, and the leisurely rich, the ones you detest.
I however do not detest neither the poor, nor the rich, for in my system, both are unable to dictate policies.

Yes, for the most part our country is ruled by the rich, but at least we poor have a chance of making it to public office. Your system is tyranical and the doors are shut to everyone BUT the rich..which is a big difference.

Also, you stil dont understand anarchism. Why not? You have a computer in front of you. Are you to lazy to look it up? Anarchists want to abolish money. How the FUCK can anyone be rich in that scenero? Anarchist want the state to be abolished, therefore no aparatus for any subjugation of the masses. And finally, no anarchist would ever accept a "rulership" or authority over other people, nor would they want to create a government, much less a side government.

Its not my fault that you are ignorant to basic definitions such as "anarchy". Do your homework or deserve your scoffing.

Quote:Besides, you won't be living under my government, since you are not even my kin to live under the flag of that country.
A little bit of racism seeping out again is it not? As far as I am concerned we are equals, and as much as I disrespect G-C I would not deny the man food, water, or medical attention. Everyone deserves food, water, shelter, equality and good health regardles of wether you think they deserve it or not. This is non-negotiable with me. If you oppose this then you are rightly an enemy of the people and a possible tyrant in my eyes. You call it selfish mob rule. I call it welfare of the people.
Western democracy, for all of its failings, is no way what you describe it. It DOES give back to the people. Not as much as I would like it, but it does have its benefits. Our problem is with the oligarchy.

Anarchist, on the other hand, prefer direct democracy without a centralized government. In fact, centralized power is one of the biggest things they fight against.

Quote:If I'd see that guy on the streets, I'd break his legs
Wow...the farthest I would go is smashing your banks the fuck up. You, on the other hand, feel fine about breaking bones. Becareful. Once you cross that line, you may find yourself in a situation where you become the gimp.

Dictatorships are not possible in an anarchist system. No government, no state, no money, property is commonly owned, and most people are well armed to protect their freedoms.

As far as dictating policies, everyone is capable of doing such a thing. That is why anarchists do not have positions of power. If we MUST have such a thing, it is temporary and revolving. And when I mean temporary, I mean TEMPORARY, as in one job to do representing something for the moment. In situations like that, I support a random system. Everyone who is willing to be temporary representative tosses their lot in. It is stirred and the name drawn is the one elected.
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Who you voting for? - by ReB - December 15, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 15, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 15, 2011 at 4:54 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Rev. Rye - December 21, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 21, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Heather - December 21, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by 5thHorseman - December 15, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 15, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Tiberius - December 15, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 15, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by frankiej - December 15, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 15, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Erinome - December 15, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Erinome - December 15, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Autumnlicious - December 15, 2011 at 6:12 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Tiberius - December 15, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by ReB - December 16, 2011 at 3:23 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by Minimalist - December 16, 2011 at 8:24 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 3:28 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by Phaedra - December 16, 2011 at 3:36 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by Autumnlicious - December 16, 2011 at 4:16 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by paintpooper - December 16, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Tiberius - December 16, 2011 at 4:00 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by paintpooper - December 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Welsh cake - December 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by BloodyHeretic - December 16, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 16, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by J.D. - December 16, 2011 at 8:09 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 16, 2011 at 8:24 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Autumnlicious - December 16, 2011 at 10:43 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 16, 2011 at 11:55 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 17, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by ReB - December 21, 2011 at 6:08 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 21, 2011 at 8:47 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by Minimalist - December 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Heather - December 21, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by Whateverist - December 21, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by DeistPaladin - December 21, 2011 at 10:53 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by Cinjin - December 21, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by Whateverist - December 21, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 21, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 9:43 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 21, 2011 at 10:02 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 11:20 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 22, 2011 at 5:07 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 11:21 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 24, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Who you voting for? - by houseofcantor - December 22, 2011 at 1:36 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by 5thHorseman - December 24, 2011 at 11:53 am
RE: Who you voting for? - by reverendjeremiah - December 24, 2011 at 1:29 pm

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