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Abortion and Population
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RE: Abortion and Population
Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Yes, you did:

Ok, I was ambivalent at the time I wrote it, but later I did note that I am not sure it was or wasn't, but that religion plays a part.

Thumpalumpacus Wrote:This war would continue even if every single Ukrainian converted to Muscovite Orthodoxy tomorrow -- because it is both a land-grab and a punishment for rejecting, by revolution, Putin's fixing of the 2014 election.

If every single Ukrainian converted to Muscovite Orthodoxy tomorrow then there would be no war since they would all agree with Putin since the Church is on his side. They would become Russians.

It's a land grab but religious wars are also (sometimes) about land grab. I was reading the article on Wikipedia about Religious Wars and some consider the Yugoslav wars in the early 1990s to be religious wars which were similar to the war in Ukraine since it was about Serbia trying to take lands in Croatia and Bosnia, but it also involved religion.

Now this shows that religious war is sometimes hard to define, but I would not say that necessarily wrong to call the war in Ukraine a religious war, especially if Putin is trying to establish Tsarist Russia. Tsar is supposedly chosen by god and his land was given to him by god.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 1:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by GUBU - December 9, 2023 at 1:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by brewer - December 9, 2023 at 1:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 4:20 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 9, 2023 at 1:30 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2023 at 1:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2023 at 2:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 9, 2023 at 2:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 2:53 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:06 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2023 at 3:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:36 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by brewer - December 9, 2023 at 6:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by GUBU - December 12, 2023 at 3:19 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 9, 2023 at 3:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2023 at 5:57 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:47 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 9, 2023 at 5:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 1:10 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 10, 2023 at 1:55 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 5:37 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 5:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 5:46 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 5:54 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 10, 2023 at 10:09 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 10, 2023 at 6:36 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2023 at 9:57 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Deesse23 - December 10, 2023 at 10:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ravenshire - December 10, 2023 at 4:40 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 4:51 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 5:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2023 at 9:49 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Deesse23 - December 10, 2023 at 10:42 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2023 at 6:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Magic Pudding. - December 10, 2023 at 3:51 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 10, 2023 at 6:30 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 6:50 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 9:58 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 11:10 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 11:26 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 11:38 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 12:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 12, 2023 at 3:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 3:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 10, 2023 at 6:44 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Jackalope - December 10, 2023 at 9:50 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 8:36 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 8:44 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 8:58 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 10:37 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 10:44 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 11:41 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 12:26 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 1:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 8:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2023 at 11:34 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 12:02 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 11, 2023 at 2:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 11, 2023 at 2:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 3:14 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 11, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 4:20 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 11, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 4:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 11, 2023 at 5:54 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 9:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 11:21 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 12, 2023 at 6:16 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2023 at 10:07 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 9:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by brewer - December 12, 2023 at 12:33 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 12, 2023 at 5:53 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by GUBU - December 18, 2023 at 4:00 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 10:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 11:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2023 at 10:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 11:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 11:27 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2023 at 11:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 12, 2023 at 12:35 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 11:43 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 11:57 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 12:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 1:05 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 1:10 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 3:51 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 12:09 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 12:14 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 12, 2023 at 12:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 3:58 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ravenshire - December 14, 2023 at 4:14 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 14, 2023 at 4:46 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 14, 2023 at 5:59 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 12, 2023 at 4:01 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 4:06 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 4:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 4:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 13, 2023 at 12:35 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 13, 2023 at 2:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 5:41 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 13, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 7:00 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 13, 2023 at 7:02 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 14, 2023 at 3:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 14, 2023 at 5:12 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 14, 2023 at 5:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 14, 2023 at 5:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 14, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2023 at 9:08 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 9:53 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2023 at 10:21 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 10:53 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 13, 2023 at 12:02 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 12:12 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 12:25 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 12:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 12:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 1:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 4:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 5:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 6:57 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 7:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 13, 2023 at 12:59 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 13, 2023 at 12:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 13, 2023 at 12:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Foxaèr - December 13, 2023 at 4:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 14, 2023 at 6:13 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 14, 2023 at 6:05 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 14, 2023 at 8:35 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 15, 2023 at 12:07 am

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