(December 11, 2023 at 9:43 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote:(December 9, 2023 at 6:43 pm)brewer Wrote: bold mine: Then they are incorrect. But it's my guess and I find it more likely that you are incorrect. Please provide the link for your UN quote.Help me out here. What’s the problem? Do you not agree with the definition of fertility rate? Or do you not agree that abortion reduces the fertility rate?
Unless you are arguing that abortions directly impacts future fertility status. If you are, that would be incorrect also.
If it’s the former, get access to a computer and the internet to search on “fertility rate definition.”
If it’s the latter, then please see my response to Thumpalumpacus. I’m not interested in the hill that abortion reduces the fertility rate. However, it seems reasonable to me that anything that reduces the number of live births while, at the same time, keeping the number of women constant would reduce the fertility rate.
So, what is incorrect and why is it incorrect?
The problem is that I don't (didn't-see below) believe you. You made a 'quote' and state that the UN (and others?) claim that fertility rate = birth rate. I know this is incorrect. I asked for a link to the document where you obtained your 'quote' and now see that you are apparently unwilling or unable to supply the document.
Then you want me to do the work that you should have done to make the claim. Sorry, that's on you to support your claim.
But just for fun I found your source: https://www.un.org/fr/desa/world-populat...llion-2100
Now I think that you lack the ability to comprehend. The total birth rate, and population, increases world wide. And it's sad that the UN can't use fertility and birth correctly.
Why does it matter if the claimed 'fertility rate' is lower in 83 countries? Do you not like the 112 countries where fertility increases? It's more likely you used this as a false flag for your position on abortion. Your quote "So, you can be for abortion if you want. But don’t argue based on population levels." (post #1)
For education you might want to look at gravida vs para (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravidity_and_parity), apparently the UN also. Gravida relates to fertility, para relates to birth, they are most certainly different.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.