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Abortion and Population
RE: Abortion and Population
(December 12, 2023 at 12:44 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Right, and it appears neither of us share that @Ahriman's worries  regarding abortion leading to extinction. It's just the way you worded yourself at first that pretty much gave the wrong impression.
Would that I could hear how other people hear what I say before I say it. It’s always clear to me! :-)

(December 12, 2023 at 12:44 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(December 11, 2023 at 9:38 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: My point is that the population levels are not out of control. The fearmongering was that we would run out of resources and even space (I think of a Star Trek episode).
I strongly disagree with this. Overpopulation is at the root of several problems that individually threaten us -- the most obvious being accelerated global warming, but there are other. We also threaten the biodiversity of the Earth, which indirectly harms us too. Yes, I've read that the Earth could support several billion more humans, but the ecological  cost would be enormous.
I would find it hard to separate the impact on the environment due solely to numbers, et al, from the impact on the environment due to the behavior of those numbers. It seems to me to be both. Yet I would say that we do a lot more damage to our environment by the things we do just because we don’t give a damn. Five people with machinery could destroy a region of forest and 50 people, say, could live in the same area and it still be beautiful and filled with life. I know it’s imaginary, but I think of the Elves at Rivendell compared to the Orcs of Isengard.
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Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 1:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Pat Mustard - December 9, 2023 at 1:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by brewer - December 9, 2023 at 1:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 4:20 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 9, 2023 at 1:30 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2023 at 1:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2023 at 2:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 9, 2023 at 2:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 2:53 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:06 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2023 at 3:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:36 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by brewer - December 9, 2023 at 6:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Pat Mustard - December 12, 2023 at 3:19 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 9, 2023 at 3:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 9, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2023 at 5:57 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 9, 2023 at 3:47 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 9, 2023 at 5:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 1:10 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 10, 2023 at 1:55 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 5:37 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 5:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 5:46 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 5:54 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 10, 2023 at 10:09 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 10, 2023 at 6:36 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2023 at 9:57 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Deesse23 - December 10, 2023 at 10:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ravenshire - December 10, 2023 at 4:40 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 4:51 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Dmitry1983 - December 10, 2023 at 5:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2023 at 9:49 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Deesse23 - December 10, 2023 at 10:42 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2023 at 6:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Magic Pudding. - December 10, 2023 at 3:51 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 10, 2023 at 6:30 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2023 at 6:50 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 9:58 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 11:10 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 11:26 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 11:38 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 12:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 12, 2023 at 3:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 3:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 10, 2023 at 6:44 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Jackalope - December 10, 2023 at 9:50 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 8:36 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 8:44 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 8:58 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 10:37 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 10:44 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 11:41 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 12:26 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Fake Messiah - December 11, 2023 at 1:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 11, 2023 at 8:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2023 at 11:34 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 12:02 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 11, 2023 at 2:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 11, 2023 at 2:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 3:14 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 11, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 4:20 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 11, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 4:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 11, 2023 at 5:54 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 9:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 11:21 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 12, 2023 at 6:16 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2023 at 10:07 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 9:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by brewer - December 12, 2023 at 12:33 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 12, 2023 at 5:53 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Pat Mustard - December 18, 2023 at 4:00 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by SimpleCaveman - December 11, 2023 at 10:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2023 at 11:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2023 at 10:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 11, 2023 at 11:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 11, 2023 at 11:27 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2023 at 11:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 12, 2023 at 12:35 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 11:43 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 11:57 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 12:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 1:05 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 1:10 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 3:51 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 12:09 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 12:14 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 12, 2023 at 12:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 3:58 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ravenshire - December 14, 2023 at 4:14 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 14, 2023 at 4:46 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 14, 2023 at 5:59 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Rev. Rye - December 12, 2023 at 4:01 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 12, 2023 at 4:06 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 12, 2023 at 4:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2023 at 4:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 13, 2023 at 12:35 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 13, 2023 at 2:39 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 5:41 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 13, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 7:00 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 13, 2023 at 7:02 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 14, 2023 at 3:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 14, 2023 at 5:12 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by arewethereyet - December 14, 2023 at 5:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 14, 2023 at 5:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 14, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2023 at 9:08 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 9:53 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2023 at 10:21 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 10:53 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 13, 2023 at 12:02 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 12:12 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 12:25 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 12:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 12:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 1:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 4:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 5:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Ahriman - December 13, 2023 at 6:57 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2023 at 7:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Thumpalumpacus - December 13, 2023 at 12:59 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 13, 2023 at 12:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 13, 2023 at 12:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Silver - December 13, 2023 at 4:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by no one - December 14, 2023 at 6:13 am
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 14, 2023 at 6:05 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by The Grand Nudger - December 14, 2023 at 8:35 pm
RE: Abortion and Population - by Astreja - December 15, 2023 at 12:07 am

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