RE: Does the Quran support Theocracy?
April 22, 2024 at 1:22 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2024 at 1:27 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 21, 2024 at 6:46 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: That’s an interesting point:
“Tell me about your heaven and I’ll tell you what you are missing in life”
Still: I’m not so sure that science and technology is going to solve everything for us.
I mean: Are we the most gifted generation that has ever existed?
My Grandparents needed to go to a public bath for instance. Did anyone here ever go to a public bath in his/her lifetime?
Yet: We are not that happy. I don’t know about you but I always look forward to the next good thing in my life. Advertisement is pushing all sorts of useless stuff into our hands. And many are simply too caught-up in this game.
So spiritually come and says: “Wait a minute. Just stop for a second and be here now”. We might lengthen this debate if you like, but that’s what I see in it.
The accomplishments of major civilizations are not myths. We are able to go there and observe them (though historical records and archaeology of course).
But what I said about Ancient Egypt is something I could say for the Arab civilization of the Middle Ages. Within history there are those highly advanced societies that could harbor a man like me without killing me in a few months from an infectious disease and/or burning me alive by accusing me of incarnating demons. All that I said was that I would not miss the 20:00 news of this civilization that much. Nor would I miss the alienation, the pollution, massive cities on concrete…
Just look at our cities: No civilization has ever built anything that ugly. + Going from one edge of London to the other edge in the 19th century was faster than now in the 19th century.
I’m not saying it would not be difficult. But I don’t think I would shed a tear for not being able to return to the 20th century.
Nothing is going to solve everything for us. The idea that any one thing ever could solve all of our complicated and disparate issues can't really be described as anything other than stunted and childish thinking. So, too, the idea that failing to have solved all things is meaningful. Science didn't win the battle for hearts and minds, even the hearts and minds of believers, because it solved all of our problems. Rather, because spirituality had solved none. Are we the most gifted generation? Yes. By any metric, up to and including the depth and variety of spirituality afforded to us, no less. It's not that the accomplishments of major civilizations are a myth, but that we create myths in our own minds that are not accurate representations of those civilizations. As you've done with egypt and the ummah.
I'm sorry you don't like whatever commercials are playing in your country. It's a shame that you don't appreciate the architectural style of london....but.....so what? What's stopping you from living in a mud hut in a swamp like an egytian farmer? Is there no place sufficiently islamic for you to go and play out fantasies about the ummah? You have the choice to do these things if you wanted, and even that..the simple choice..was something the real people in question didn't possess. If you had to face their lives you would quickly decide that shit was for the birds and seek out an alternative, but they'd just tell you that's the way things were.
It's bad enough when a person is convinced that some garbage ideology is the highest ideal, it's even worse when they have to make up shit about the past to justify their beliefs in present.
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