RE: Can there be New Ways of Understanding and Practicing Ancient Religious Teachings?
June 12, 2024 at 12:17 pm
Ferrocyanide:
The term “Church” has become very widespread indeed. Technically, even Muslim communities in the US are a “church” of some sort. Students of Paramahansa Yogananda are also describing themselves as “missionaries” of God. And there is nothing wrong with that for me. It simply strengthens my idea of “Separation of Church and State”
GrandNudger:
1) I’m a hetero, so to me it’s like a 10 year old kid holding a hand-grenade or a razor-sharp knife or something like that. The hijab (this kind of hijab) is a very strong symbol. And I believe it is also partly responsible for the far-right disaster that has just happened in European parliament elections a few days ago.
Not all Europeans are the civilized / highly intelligent individuals that we usually think of in other parts of the planet. Some of them are complete philistines under a mask of culturally more sophisticated persons. There is no denying this. But this guys (people with the hijab) are increasing the pressure of them. They go as far as portraying people who simply don’t like their way of doing this as “anti-Islam” or “racists” (Just like Jewish extremists call us anti-Semites whenever we say something that goes against their way of doing things).
So yes: This image is a scary image. I totally don’t like it. And it’s utterly stupid to believe that you can achieve any level of spiritual growth by terrorizing other people like this.
Of course: you know that I totally respect more “normal” types of headscarves when they have a cultural and/or sincerely spiritual meaning for that person.
2) Yes. But I say this has to change. No one is going to follow that kind of approach in our time unless they are forced or brainwashed into it. All parts of society have the potential to evolve. Religious institutions have also the ability of evolve and change
3) That type of Islam / Political Islam are not really a match for me.
So it’s not a “religion” thing. This is populism / fascism. And it’s as old as the Pharaohs of Egypt actually. But this is not the Age of Ramses II. This is the age that follows enlightenment and the Industrial revolution. So while some people are a little slow in getting it. This is the reality of our time. I like reason and true facts. I don’t like indoctrination and brainwashing based arguments. And I am saying that true spirituality is like this too. You’re probably understanding this by now.
The term “Church” has become very widespread indeed. Technically, even Muslim communities in the US are a “church” of some sort. Students of Paramahansa Yogananda are also describing themselves as “missionaries” of God. And there is nothing wrong with that for me. It simply strengthens my idea of “Separation of Church and State”

GrandNudger:
1) I’m a hetero, so to me it’s like a 10 year old kid holding a hand-grenade or a razor-sharp knife or something like that. The hijab (this kind of hijab) is a very strong symbol. And I believe it is also partly responsible for the far-right disaster that has just happened in European parliament elections a few days ago.
Not all Europeans are the civilized / highly intelligent individuals that we usually think of in other parts of the planet. Some of them are complete philistines under a mask of culturally more sophisticated persons. There is no denying this. But this guys (people with the hijab) are increasing the pressure of them. They go as far as portraying people who simply don’t like their way of doing this as “anti-Islam” or “racists” (Just like Jewish extremists call us anti-Semites whenever we say something that goes against their way of doing things).
So yes: This image is a scary image. I totally don’t like it. And it’s utterly stupid to believe that you can achieve any level of spiritual growth by terrorizing other people like this.
Of course: you know that I totally respect more “normal” types of headscarves when they have a cultural and/or sincerely spiritual meaning for that person.

2) Yes. But I say this has to change. No one is going to follow that kind of approach in our time unless they are forced or brainwashed into it. All parts of society have the potential to evolve. Religious institutions have also the ability of evolve and change

3) That type of Islam / Political Islam are not really a match for me.

So it’s not a “religion” thing. This is populism / fascism. And it’s as old as the Pharaohs of Egypt actually. But this is not the Age of Ramses II. This is the age that follows enlightenment and the Industrial revolution. So while some people are a little slow in getting it. This is the reality of our time. I like reason and true facts. I don’t like indoctrination and brainwashing based arguments. And I am saying that true spirituality is like this too. You’re probably understanding this by now.

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