RE: Lazy Atheism?
June 17, 2024 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2024 at 11:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 16, 2024 at 9:59 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Wouldn't the non-literalist say that the Genesis story of "Adam and Eve eating the fruit of knowledge of good and evil" never happened but some sort of fuck up did happen.Sure, to be blunt, they'll say just about anything. Nevertheless..."some other fucked up thing" is not the story of christ and the revisions to fact over all these years have had the effect of eroding christian belief even if the intent was to protect it or shield it from criticism. The cain and abel thing is fun. That's about the pastoralist source telling us that god likes his way of life better than the other guys. Literally translated it's the story of Farmer and Herdsmen and according to magic book - there was a city on earth at the time.
As for the Cain and Abel, there was no such people but maybe at some point, there was some neantherthal or homo erectus or homo habilis that killed another one of their brothers so the jewish god had to wipe them off the map.
Quote:When I say primitive humans, I mean somewhere in the range of 100,000 y ago to 100 CE or 1700 CE. I guess I should have mentioned that earlier.Somewhere around or by 50kya. Probably earlier, but definitely no later. It's when we're anatomically and behaviorally modern - including what looks like religious ideation. We would plug along for another 30ky before there's any evidence whatsoever of the the gods of theism. They arose right around the advent of agriculture and cities, conveniently enough, with cain and able in mind.
You can define it however you like.
What is early full modernity?
In the sense that we might want to allow for our just so stories (this one, any of them...really) to reflect some knowledge of events perhaps handed down by an oral tradition and very much built into their cultural narratives...if we proposed the caveman resolution to the dilemma of cain and abel we will have robbed the narrative of the very thing we seek to protect in it's invocation. It could only be such a story if it concerned events as recent as 10kya and later - leaving a whopping quarter million years or more from anatomical modernity - when the oldest modern human remains show up.
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