The Historical Jesus

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Remember when the thread was about the historical Jesus? I long for those bygone days.

Boru

Well, what more is there to say?


The OP was claiming that there are 4 journalists and each wrote one gospel. That is doubtful, specially when there are large sections that are obviously copied from one to the other.

The story is written as if a camera is following the characters. At one point, it shows the conversation between Herod and the 3 magicians, then there is a conversation between just the 3 magicians. You have a conversation going on between John the Baptist and 2 of his followers.
One of them has a conversation between an angel and the lady that was going to give birth to John the Baptist.
One of them has a conversation between an angel and the Mary that was going to give birth to Jesus. Then another conversation with Joseph.

To me, it looks like Israel needed a savior and it had to be someone from the royal class. The savior is for saving Israel. He isn't there to save europeans or all of the world.
I imagine that at some point in time Rome invaded Israel and they probably executed all of the royal class. This creates a void and some people might claim that eventually, someone from the royal bloodline is going to show up. He would be sent by the jewish god and the savior is going to zap all the roman soldiers.

When you went to church or when your parents raised you christian, how much time did they spend teaching you about the political problem of ancient Israel?

     As I said the Gosples were written by people who recorded the stories that eye-witnesses told them. That's why It "feels like a camera is following Jesus". I think it's also safe to assume that the disciples played a role in telling this story as well.

As it is written,

             "Whereas many have undertaken to write a narrative of those things which are most surely believed among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word, it seemed goot to me also, having accurately investigated all things from the very beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you might know the certainty of the things which you have been told."

You say they copied off of each other, yes I find that this is the issue that the skeptic often raises and it's part of a 2 sided balance beam that the Gosples need to walk perfectly with one foot directly in front of the other. Careful not to fall to either side.

On the left side we have, "the Gosples are too diss-similar therefore they can't be about the same person."              On the right side we have, "the Gosples are too similar, therefore they are nothing but copies of one another."

When you say that you know that the Gosple authors copied off of each-other how do you know that to be the case? How do you know that the reason why some parts line up so well isn't because they're telling the same story about the same person?

Also, one of my pastors did tell me about the political issues that were going on as well as the conflict between Rome and Israel. That's why the Pharisees rejected Jesus, because he didn't fit the mold of the conquering king that they were looking for.