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Trump Assassination Attempt
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt
(July 14, 2024 at 3:30 pm)Lek Wrote: In regard to the gun control issue brought up earlier, I'm a staunch believer in second amendment rights. I keep a loaded pistol at home. The problem is that because of the immorality and lack of love for one another people will continue to massacre innocent people including children. Because of this it's not a matter of if, but when people will have enough and we will loose this important right.
The US has the highest per capita of private gun ownership in the world.

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They also have the 2nd highest rate of overall gun deaths in the world. 

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Many countries have strict gun control, and correspondingly low rates of gun deaths and gun crime. It's impossible to simply deny the link between the easy availability of guns, both legal and illegal, and the resulting elevated rates of gun deaths and gun crime. The fact you hold a subjective belief that you're safer because you have one, no more makes this belief true, than people who feel they are safer because they believe a deity is looking out for them. 

The evidence demonstrating the increased likelihood of being shot and killed, in households that own guns is also overwhelming, it's even higher for children of such households. 

The obsession with preserving private gun ownership has little to do with the origins of the second amendment of course. As a UK citizen, I can only say that I have never heard a compelling reason for a civilian to own a handgun, and certainly not automatic or semi atomic riles.

I'd love to see some objective evidence that immorality is significantly higher in the US than other countries with strict gun control and correspondingly low rates of gun crime and gun deaths. That said, if someone held nefarious intent to harm or murder, then it surely makes sense to make guns as hard as possible to obtain.
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Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:03 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by arewethereyet - July 13, 2024 at 10:06 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Silver - July 13, 2024 at 10:06 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:13 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Silver - July 13, 2024 at 10:21 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:24 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Thumpalumpacus - July 13, 2024 at 10:33 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Mister Agenda - July 15, 2024 at 1:57 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Silver - July 13, 2024 at 10:29 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:32 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:34 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Thumpalumpacus - July 13, 2024 at 10:38 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Silver - July 13, 2024 at 10:39 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:41 pm
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RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by brewer - July 13, 2024 at 10:44 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 10:45 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Lek - July 13, 2024 at 11:00 pm
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Thumpalumpacus - July 14, 2024 at 12:39 am
RE: Trump Assassination Attempt - by Fake Messiah - July 14, 2024 at 1:24 am
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