RE: God's will.....who needs it?
July 6, 2009 at 2:15 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2009 at 2:18 pm by bozo.)
(July 6, 2009 at 10:34 am)Anto Kennedy Wrote:(July 5, 2009 at 8:25 am)bozo Wrote: So you will worship a fiend because a fiend is the only option, if you want to worship? Have you even considered the obvious which is that god probably doesn't exist?
As for die or be thankful, what do you mean exactly?
How is God a fiend?
Die or be thankful means: it's either this or nothingness, If you don't like this life; choose nothingness.
In the beginning there was nothing, the fact that we even have the opportunity to live is worth celebrating.
After every disastrous acident, there are those who " thank god " for either themselves or their loved-ones being spared. The implication must be that god chose who not to spare. In the case that started this thread, the plane crash in the Indian Ocean, god chose to spare 1 out of 152. I call that fiendish!
I like life, most of the time. I believe nothingness is what there is before and after life, so I don't need to choose, that has happened already.
I agree, life is woth celebrating, we only get one....so live it fre of superstition!
(July 6, 2009 at 12:19 am)Arcanus Wrote:(July 4, 2009 at 6:07 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Well said, Arcanus. Back when I was a theist, my interpretation of God from my studies of the Bible wasn't all feely-touchy-nice, and certainly was above what mere humans considered 'good' and 'right', which I have long held as relative terms. Yes, God aced 151 people and allowed one to live. Does that make the survivor special? Well...
1. If moral terms are relative, then your interpretation of God's character is relative. Ergo, God is not morally reprehensible; rather, he merely offends your feelings. If moral terms are relative, then they are biographical, in which case your position says something about you and nothing about God.
2. It makes the survivor 'special' if being selected to survive death is better than being selected to die.
(July 4, 2009 at 6:07 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I would quote you and talk about specifics, but it would be like searching out specific noodles in a plate of spaghetti and I've already had lunch.
With your permission, I'd like to add that to my sig.
(July 5, 2009 at 8:25 am)bozo Wrote: Have you even considered the obvious, which is that God probably doesn't exist?
This is the fallacy known as Complex Question, which is in the question-begging family. "You commit this fallacy when you frame a question so that some controversial presupposition is made by the wording of the question" (link).
Arcanus, you can call my question whatever you like. I maintain that, on probability, gods do not exist.
Worth considering.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?