(May 22, 2024 at 9:52 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Hello h3311inac311,
What was the purpose of Jesus according to you or what have you been told his purpose is?
That's a very broad question, the first word that pops into my mind is Truth. For me the fundamental claim of who Jesus is has always come back to this simple statement, "I am the way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me."
What are people searching for if not the correct way to live? What are you guys after if not the Truth? Who doesn't want to viva la vida?
We all want to live the correct life in the correct way, we all want to be right, we want our beliefs to hold True. For who knowingly believes a lie? How many people knowingly deceive themselves so that they may live a lie that is out of accordance with what is good or true? Most people think that their way is true, that what they believe is true. Jesus came to live the perfect life and show us what would be possible if we chose to follow him as he leads us towards our Father God.
"1) Two completely different genealogies for Joseph.
2) Luke places the date of Jesus' birth ten years later than Matthew.
3) Matthew has Mary and Joseph living in a house in Bethlehem when Jesus was born while Luke says they were living in Nazareth and travelling to Bethlehem for a census.
4) Matthew says that Jesus' family fled to Egypt after the birth and moved to Nazareth only after the death of Herod. Luke says they were living in Nazareth all along and returned there immediately after Jesus was circumcised.
5) Luke knows nothing of Herod's slaughter of the innocents or of a flight to Egypt. In fact, by Luke's chronology, Herod was already dead when Jesus was born.
So not compatible at all...NB, I refer to the gospels those names were arbitrarily assigned to, over 3 centuries later, since the original texts of all 4 canonical gospels were unauthored, no one can know who wrote them." - Sheldon
1) Yes, different but not contradictory, or can one man not have a vast multitude of great great grand-parents to draw his name from?
Does this count as a point in favor of the idea that Matthew and Luke weren't copying each other's homework?
2) Please give me some scriptural references here, I don't know how you arrived at this conclusion.
3) So we can compare Matthew 1:18 with Luke 2. Matthew 2 starts with this, "Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king" Does this really contradict with what Luke said about Jesus being born in a manger in Bethlehem? Luke gives more details on this, but Matthew gives more details about King Herod. Does this count as a point in favor of the idea that Matthew and Luke weren't just copying off of each other?
Again I'm still not seeing the contradiction here.
4) Yes, Luke makes mention of how Jesus was presented in the Temple to do all that was according to the law. Matthew talks about king Herod and Joseph's flight to Egypt. Again, a contradiction isn't present here. One author was highlighting different events in Jesus early years. A simpler way to put it is this, is it not possible that both stories are true? That Jesus was born in Bethlehem but then was taken to Egypt to escape Herod, and then was taken back to the Temple for his circumcision? And then went to Nazareth?
And if all of this is true, are either Matthew or Luke making an error?
5) What is Luke's chronology?
