RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
December 5, 2024 at 2:01 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2024 at 2:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 5, 2024 at 1:31 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: A quibble. I think it undermines your point if you follow the difference between atheist and atheism with a point conflating Christians and theism. If a Christian kills a witch because the Bible tells them to, they killed in the name of Christianity, not theism.
Exactly, the belief that gods exist, just like the belief that they do not, does not imply or entail any further thing. People could imagine better gods, its a testament to their purpose that we largely have not. A belief in gods in and of itself is not even religious, merely superstitious. Religion requires a moral comment. Statements about how the world should be, the shape of a good life, and what duties people have towards the advancement of those normative goals.
The most common religious position (or psuedo-religious if we prefer) for atheists in the us is humanism. It makes little sense to say that humanists don't understand the sanctity of human life for example - as it's right there on the tin. Meanwhile, christer gods child killing soul forge ideology allows no sanctity whatsoever for human life. Sanctity is vested within god and extends only insomuch as god grants it. Our lives aren't sacred or inviolable..it allegedly violates them all the damned time and even went so far as to create a world that would violate them as a matter of course with no specific intervention required.
So, if a person who genuinely believes in this soul forge and genuinely believes in some gods decree to off a witch and genuinely believes it would be better for the individual or communities souls to do so goes and kills a witch, they're not doing christianity wrong. They're right on point, and their christianity is the cause. Those people will often feel genuinely conflicted by their beliefs in this regard, fwiw...but must ultimately consider it an unfortunate consequence of their commitment to the soul forging god. Christians that pull back from this are only pulling back from christian ideology. Imagining that god is a humanist now......like so many of them have become.
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